John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
An old magazine report on the great Swede,it really is a cracker and a half.
A rippin` calibre,the .358 Norma Magnum for the enthusiasts.
- Thread starter John Gryphon
- Start date
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
Freeforester
Well-Known Member
You’ll need a copper mine to feed it 
You’ll need a copper mine to feed it
Boliden Aitik
www.boliden.com
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
I don`t get the idea that one isn't gonna be able to afford running a hammer. Recoil is a factor too as they take taming @ 30 plus FP`s. Nathan said..."The Norma does not suffer fools who hold their rifles in a limp and lazy manner. "Boliden Aitik
Count the number of shots per year a bloke shoots in say .222/.223/.308 etc compared to shooting lets say 10-20 a year on big deer....there is no contest as to which consumes more copper or which is more effective in daylight bush stalking. lol.
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
I haven't yet run into a sub MOA person,I have seen pics of their targets though lol.
The updates on all things pertaining to the .358 60 odd years later make for an even better rifle/calibre.
4600 foot pounds settles all sorts of trials.
I must get off my arse and take mine out, she needs some blood.
Jagare
Well-Known Member
15 plus years ago there was a Varberger .358 and .30 something Norma magnum on the rack at a gun shop I was perusing. Both in as new condition. Lovely looking rifles. I'm sure the previous owner thought they were the dogs bollocks when he bought them only to find out that a 6.5 Swede will kill a moose just as well and without the pain.
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
Yes of course there will always be those that will come in and opine that their (name calibre) of choice will do the same job...under optimum conditions perhaps...schitt I could have head shot my bull at 310 yards with my.220 Swift too....there was a woman that killed a brown bear with a .22 LR (true) but the thread is about the 358 NM.
I killed my bull moose with the 6.5 Swede but I know 100% that if hit with the 358 Norma it wouldn't have taken two shots,it would not have got into the forest with two broken legs.
A new scope on what rifle would improve the result. 100 rounds with .358NM will be felt and open up your groups.
I am happy with 1" groups, 2,5" will work fine on big game.
Its nice to have something a little different.
K
K
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
And one could add its little sister the .308 Norma Magnum, another of life`s treasures.
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
To add further to the discussion blah blah....these walloping calibres come into their own on shot offerings as per below on big deer that can really take some lead. This mornings stag is walking feeding and will be obscured in seconds,make up your mind as to where your crosshairs will be ( with a lead) . Lesser, although proven calibres as .270/.308/30-06 (.243`s don't get a mention) shot in the crease behind shoulder will and can slip between shoulder and body exiting out the front with the loss of the stag. Added to that the stag can survive that type of hit. To hit the opposite shoulder you need to rake through that last rib entry point and that my friends is where the OP calibre holds its own and the lesser wont have enough grunt to get through the body gut mass.
Stag is 500 away btw but we will pretend he is 200 for the tale.
Stag is 500 away btw but we will pretend he is 200 for the tale.
HonestJohn
Well-Known Member
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
What with?
HonestJohn
Well-Known Member
At 200, 6.5’s and up, or 25-06 included. At 500, 30-06, 300wm, 7rm, type things,
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
There is a fair chance that they are not up to the job for that shot scenario and if delivered I would back it in to have a runner and if you are in the bush it can be extremely difficult finding the **** lol... its why I have lauded the .358 NM.
Believe me tt Sambar are big and extremely tough,tougher than any other in reality. So many are lost every year.
HonestJohn
Well-Known Member
Never seen one, imagined they were another size of our largest red stags in the UK
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
Every pound bigger makes them 25 pound tougher,they amaze all the time with tenacity and toughness.
But big calibres don't solve the problem of mishits
Remember for TSD that I weighed a hinds gralloch on a proper scale and that came in just over 100LBS,just the gralloch!..the boys are a lot bigger.
Back to the lesser calibres which are all fine calibres anyway,I have added another scenario. Sometimes a big antlered stag warrants one up the Khyber,this pic below is another case of "don't do it unless your are properly equipped"
The .358 NM will do the job but I wouldn't ring hole this one, he needs to grow.
Similar threads
