Minimum calibre is .270 W

John Gryphon

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Note min LEGAL cal is 270 win...yeah yeah yeah we can all blow a jaw off with our 22-250.
Choose your calibre fancy and put a red dot on him.....what projectile...no heads nor .243`s. Range is 250 yards with a 10 knot wind from left.
He is the stag that was browsing that I posted earlier today,he wandered down a heavily infested blackberry creek so I got in front of him and one wind swirl sent him out into the open as a shortcut to a heavy bush area.

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I tend to aim higher and further forward than best practice. Busting the joint as well as nicking the vessels at the top of the heart. If I were a better shot I’m sure I’d go for a heart lung shot behind the leg, but the risk of hitting the gut makes it less attractive especially once an animal is quartering towards or away it becomes a small target. .270” WIN Sako Blade Copper 120gn… just trolling 🤣

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I tend to aim higher and further forward than best practice. Busting the joint as well as nicking the vessels at the top of the heart.
I absolutely hate breaking shoulders, but I put that down to the fact I predominantly shoot roe, and the shoulders hold a couple of kg of really good meat that it upsets me to lose. At the end of the day though, a dead deer is the desired outcome!
 
I absolutely hate breaking shoulders, but I put that down to the fact I predominantly shoot roe, and the shoulders hold a couple of kg of really good meat that it upsets me to lose. At the end of the day though, a dead deer is the desired outcome!
I completely understand, and I expect that as I shoot, and eventually sell, more deer the risk/reward balance may change. Each deer I shoot is a huge windfall of meat for my provisions and so whilst it is for personal, and family etc, consumption the loss of a few kilograms of meat is acceptable as I run out of space to store it fresh. We don’t each much, or really any, frozen food and so there is a limited shelf life for vacuum packed meat. As a relative novice, <50 deer, my first thoughts are to give myself the best chance to immobilise and quickly kill the deer, meat damage is secondary. For me nicking the gut is too big a risk still. Obviously if you are a contractor putting meat into the larder the dynamics, and experience levels, are quite different.
 
I would come up the middle of the foreleg to just under half way up and send a 140gn RWS 7mm HIT Copper Monolithic bullet straight through. The bullet should go straight through giving a major shock to all the nerves in the shoulders, in the forward part of the chest cavity and severe major arteries connecting the heart and lungs. If it goes a bit one or other still plenty of damage done. I would surprised if the beast goes more than a few yards. Most I have shot have collapsed on the spot.

Meat damage to shoulders with a copper bullet is minimal - no fragmentation etc and you can recover most of the meat.
 
Meat damage to shoulders with a copper bullet is minimal - no fragmentation etc and you can recover most of the meat.
I still have a hundred or so loaded rounds to get through, so have no immediate plans to switch to copper. I might just load a few copper and check results though. If they perform better than my existing load it may be time to switch
 
130 gr ppu soft point just behind the shoulder

I reckon everyone can point to where on the doll it should hit, but I think the OP's question was where would you point to hit that spot with the distance and wind given - without twiddling. And none of the above answers can be correctly judged without knowing your zero distance. The same for the twiddlers, if we do not know how much you twiddled.
 
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