Which truck is the every day truck? Problems choosing

[The Singing Stalker]

Here is a couple of questions that can narrow the answers.
How much ground clearance do you need?
How much wading depth do you need?

Both of those were my main criteria that affected my choice.

 

[jonny.c]

@jonny.c Can I ask your opinion on Dacia Dusters 4x4? No hardcore off-roading use, just getting to places off-road that you need a 4x4.

Sorry to hijack the thread Mikey

If your buying one check Mot history for advisory’s and service history if lack of oil changes don’t buy look at a few listen to engine as they are common for chains and burning oil.

 

[Donkey Basher]

In your position I’d look at the ‘pre Ford Ranger clone’ Amarok with V6 engine. When I got my D4 I had a shortlist of two vehicles, the Disco & an Amarok. I only bought the Disco as it had a V6 3 litre engine vs the puny 2 litre turbo’s to death 4 cylinder. If they’d had the V6 in the Amarok at the time I’d have bought that without a doubt.

 

[Malxwal]

In your position I’d look at the ‘pre Ford Ranger clone’ Amarok with V6 engine. When I got my D4 I had a shortlist of two vehicles, the Disco & an Amarok. I only bought the Disco as it had a V6 3 litre engine vs the puny 2 litre turbo’s to death 4 cylinder. If they’d had the V6 in the Amarok at the time I’d have bought that without a doubt.

Pal has one, definitely the most car like driver, very comfy. But, also had three locally go badly wrong, all same problem, HP fuel pump disintegration, contamination throughout entire system, and few thousand to fix.

 

[Rake Aboot]

VW looks pretty small compared to proper sized trucks .

 

[JMikeyH]

Lots of good comments chaps thank you. Little more detail;

Doesn't need to be a serious off-roader but does need to be able to handle sloppy, wintery conditions and a half metre in wade depth minimum, ground clearance has to be good but I'm not taking it bouldering. Approach and departure angles again don't need to be the best but does need to be serviceable, it'll be going up and over old embankments and bunds but it's not going on trials.

Of huge importance for me is to have a capable and reliable motor without major flaws from factory

 

[countrryboy]

Personally i think L200s are very bad to beat.
I took mine down to leeds just sitting at 65 and it told me i was getting 47mpg.
Ive had quite a few L200s now and never had any problems or here of many problems.

I did have a Great Wall i bought by accident at auction once.
Never had much go wrong with it .
But u wont find many newer 1s.

At 25k u could almost buy a brand new Sang sung? Musso.
My brother runs 1 and likes it said he'll buy another as rest are so over priced.
He'll do 25k miles a year on rural roads towing a light traiker about

 

[countrryboy]

2013 onwards qualify for the replacement.

Salted roads (Scotland) are brutal on chassis

To be honest S scotland arent to bad.
Its when u get north of Stirling or esp Perth up the A9 corridor in paticular that is hard on chasis's

 

[JMikeyH]

Personally i think L200s are very bad to beat.
I took mine down to leeds just sitting at 65 and it told me i was getting 47mpg.
Ive had quite a few L200s now and never had any problems or here of many problems.

I did have a Great Wall i bought by accident at auction once.
Never had much go wrong with it .
But u wont find many newer 1s.

At 25k u could almost buy a brand new Sang sung? Musso.
My brother runs 1 and likes it said he'll buy another as rest are so over priced.
He'll do 25k miles a year on rural roads towing a light traiker about

What's the part availability like for the newer L200s? @Mickeydredd pointed out that they're no longer produced for the UK market so as nice as the L200s look I'm worried about part availability.

 

[Dave_45]

What's the part availability like for the newer L200s? @Mickeydredd pointed out that they're no longer produced for the UK market so as nice as the L200s look I'm worried about part availability.

I’m sure I saw a post regarding Mitsubishi re starting their European supply chain

 

[Malxwal]

What's the part availability like for the newer L200s? @Mickeydredd pointed out that they're no longer produced for the UK market so as nice as the L200s look I'm worried about part availability.

I believe ten years of parts and service support from when they pulled out.

 

[VSS]

D-max 2.5 re-gen fault & turbos the 1.9 guttless
Ford ranger wet belt and as much as fully loaded these are rubbish. FACT

Vw amarok v6 **** on fuel get it re-mapped and these are very good all round vehicles drive very well on the road ok off road

Toyota hi-lux newish models just to much electrical I would say 2014-21 models check chassis for rust
GOOD FOR BOTH

L200 just NO
Navara v6 model ok ish but no to the others

Do you have much personal experience of the 1.9 Isuzu?
I'm guessing not!
It is far from being "gutless". I admit I was sceptical, but having been driving one for a couple of years now I'm continually impressed. Tows 3.5 tonnes (and more!) with ease, and I'm regularly doing a 700 mile round trip towing those sort of loads.
It's also the first 4x4 I've ever had that doesn't lose traction pulling a load up our steep farm access track.

 

[Jon P]

Bought a 2018 L200 two years ago. 32k on the clock- very clean condition. Full service history. Hoping not to jinx myself. But has been a good reliable vehicle. Tows well and quite economical on a run. Mileage is now 60300 k.

 

[countrryboy]

What's the part availability like for the newer L200s? @Mickeydredd pointed out that they're no longer produced for the UK market so as nice as the L200s look I'm worried about part availability.

Never had a problem.
So many off them in uk, plus i think u can buy after market parts for them too.

I think i was told starting to export Tritons to uk shortly, which i think is the Ozzy name for them

 

[countrryboy]

Do you have much personal experience of the 1.9 Isuzu?
I'm guessing not!
It is far from being "gutless". I admit I was sceptical, but having been driving one for a couple of years now I'm continually impressed. Tows 3.5 tonnes (and more!) with ease, and I'm regularly doing a 700 mile round trip towing those sort of loads.
It's also the first 4x4 I've ever had that doesn't lose traction pulling a load up our steep farm access track.

I take it urs is legal to tow 3.5T?
A lot arent, for some reason ur meant to get some suspension upgrade.
Not a lot of money extra, daft its not factory standard.

 

[VSS]

I take it urs is legal to tow 3.5T?
A lot arent, for some reason ur meant to get some suspension upgrade.
Not a lot of money extra, daft its not factory standard.

The twin cab and the crew cab models are both legal to tow 3.5T as standard, I think you'll find.

 

[JMikeyH]

Do you have much personal experience of the 1.9 Isuzu?
I'm guessing not!
It is far from being "gutless". I admit I was sceptical, but having been driving one for a couple of years now I'm continually impressed. Tows 3.5 tonnes (and more!) with ease, and I'm regularly doing a 700 mile round trip towing those sort of loads.
It's also the first 4x4 I've ever had that doesn't lose traction pulling a load up our steep farm access track.

Do you use it for more typical activities Tim? Appreciate that your kid has flown the nest but as a day to day vehicle is there anything that bothers you about the Dmax

 

[VSS]

Do you use it for more typical activities Tim? Appreciate that your kid has flown the nest but as a day to day vehicle is there anything that bothers you about the Dmax

It's our only vehicle at the moment, so yes, it gets used for everything, domestic and farm.
It's just the basic model, so a bit "agricultural" internally, but that's not a problem for us. However, if you wanted to sit in car-like comfort with all mod-cons then the version we've got probably wouldn't suit.
Only niggling criticism is that the rear suspension could do with beefing up a bit. I might get stiffer springs fitted at some point.

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Later Navarra wading is 450mm. Which is why I didn’t buy one.

 

[countrryboy]

The twin cab and the crew cab models are both legal to tow 3.5T as standard, I think you'll find.

I didnt think they were.

Quite a few about locally now.
A mate drives 1 at the shoot hes FT picking up the now.
He thought the 1.9 was fairly gutless and thats wot he drices 6 days a week.
The shoots having quite a few issues with them but they do have about 8 of them and get a fairly hard life. Suspension being 1.

Peoblem is not that many choices nowadays if u want a pick up