Conviction slot on application/renewal

[Tikkat1x]

Tell that to the certificate holders who have been prosecuted issued with warnings or given other out of court disposals. You need to read the question. Ive dealt with folk like you who come out with all the excuses trying to be clever. ive then seen cert holders refused or revoked and the subsequent consquences that entails. Some fld are more stringet than others so you are lucky. So if you want to put youre certificate at risk carry on with your approach.

i dont see it as risking me certificate, and im not hiding anything, same as im not going to un necessary bother or cost to provide information they already have, and either way will check up on,
and im not trying to be clever, its a genuine reason, im 55 now and cant remember all that **** that has or hasnt happened in the last 40 years, times and dates, im not hiding anything, or accidently leaving something out, its enough hassle and cost as it is with out adding more, and if ever there not happy with my responce they can send my application back as not complete, then and only then will i add and extra step to my renewal prosses,

id like to know more about the license holders who have been prosecuted, for what? not filling a form in properly, FFS

 

[enfieldspares]

i dont see it as risking me certificate, and im not hiding anything, same as im not going to un necessary bother or cost to provide information they already have, and either way will check up on,
and im not trying to be clever, its a genuine reason, im 55 now and cant remember all that **** that has or hasnt happened in the last 40 years, times and dates, im not hiding anything, or accidently leaving something out, its enough hassle and cost as it is with out adding more, and if ever there not happy with my responce they can send my application back as not complete, then and only then will i add and extra step to my renewal prosses,

id like to know more about the license holders who have been prosecuted, for what? not filling a form in properly, FFS

As advised to the OP he should ask for his Subject Access Request. Then send that in with your application and in the relevant part asking about convictions write ""Please see here and also attached pages for additional information and enclosed Subject Access Request".

 

[Sika98k]

I'm guessing the Op doesn't drive a Landrover 110 !

K

Exactly why I bought a SWB S3 years ago a week after being caught speeding early one morning going stalking and a tad late. Luckily the Grda had no pen and I didn’t offer to lend him one !

 

[Tikkat1x]

As advised to the OP he should ask for his Subject Access Request. Then send that in with your application and in the relevant part asking about convictions write ""Please see here and also attached pages for additional information and enclosed Subject Access Request".

well to me, its like the dentist asking for a copy of your dental records before you go for a check up, im never asking and paying for a copy of some records off someone so i can send it back to them, ridicules, but the OP can do as he sees fit

 

[Rake Aboot]

Dont do any of the above unless you want to be prosecuted for failing to disclose. Use the blank page to add extra convictions. Re the date try your best submit an approximate. Or if you have a few from years back submit an access request via the acro procedure. Standard Dbs check doesnt show all convictions so avoid. The convictions section is mainly an integrity test the fld have youre comvictions its upto you to disclose.

Garbage

 

[Rafter]

JFingC.
What a trap - and I cannot believe that it isn't deliberately laid.
How about listing the high points (court appearences) and then saying something to the effect "a handful of traffic offenses, all handled with on the spot fines, between 1984 and now".
****ers.

 

[Bo Diddley]

Garbage

I was surprised by the advice... but I think it comes from someone administering the system , so you would imagine he should know .

 

[mel b3]

Just be honest on the forms , that's all that they're looking for. I just write down what I can remember, and put in a covering letter , because I honestly can't remember half of the stuff I got up to when I was young and stupid.

 

[TringSaint]

I think you’ll find they do all convictions must be declared be honest it will go in your favour

My FEO advised that you put in everything when renewing as any omission is a sign that you are dishonest and they will refuse in the spot.

I will put in that I was issued an sp30 but it was discharged as I did a speed awareness course so have no points.

Better to be safe than sorry

 

[ryanh40]

what a load of crap, why go to all the bother to find out what they already know, and as in integrity test then if you miss something they can turn round and say you lied, my way cuts that out, and i cant be prosecuted for saying nothing, and i did disclose, i disclosed they should look for them selfs, 1 application and 3 renewals and not a word has ever been said

They don’t actually always know them all I put mine down and when the feo came out he asked me about 1 he couldn’t see on my file but I had got it from acro report which you can request for free and it tells you all of them so I showed him the report he was suprised about the 1 he couldn’t see

 

[finnbear270]

Nothing since last renewal!

Seeemples.

 

[ryanh40]

As advised to the OP he should ask for his Subject Access Request. Then send that in with your application and in the relevant part asking about convictions write ""Please see here and also attached pages for additional information and enclosed Subject Access Request".

You can also request a report for a company called acro they don’t for free give you all the dates and information you need for them police that’s what I did and it went in my favour

 

[fixedwheel]

What you need to look at is the wording on the Form 201.

It has changed between the 2021 version

To the 2025 version

 

[Jeff8861]

Nothing since last renewal!

Seeemples.

That may have been acceptable a while back but not anymore

 

[Jeff8861]

Garbage

Read the question read the notes. How long have you worked in fld how many folk committing this offence have you dealt with. You crack on doing what you do.
To everyone else as suggested read the question read the notes. Be honest be open if you dont know the dates estimate it. If it doubt go on uk gov site and submit an subject to access enquiry via the acro section. Some forces will accept" see attached acro report" rather than listing all convictions.

 

[finnbear270]

That may have been acceptable a while back but not anymore

Worked for me last year, and quite a few before as I remember, across two separate constabularies.

 

[Mike L]

So you have to get your information FROM the police , to put on an application to then give it TO the police?

 

[Jeff8861]

Worked for me last year, and quite a few before as I remember, across two separate constabularies.

Like I said to a few on here you may get away with it. However you just need to get a visit from a more proficient feo who is upto speed with the policy. Or like ive seen with some forces the fld is audited and this is found. Is it worth possibly losing your certificate over.

 

[Jeff8861]

So you have to get your information FROM the police , to put on an application to then give it TO the police?

From uk/gov to the police. The clue is in the question you have to declare. If you dont declare you committ the offence. There is no defence of well you have my records.

 

[Rake Aboot]

Read the question read the notes. How long have you worked in fld how many folk committing this offence have you dealt with. You crack on doing what you do.
To everyone else as suggested read the question read the notes. Be honest be open if you dont know the dates estimate it. If it doubt go on uk gov site and submit a subject to access enquiry via the acro section. Some forces will accept" see attached acro report" rather than listing all convictions.

What offence ?

You don’t get prosecuted for “ failure to disclose”. You get your application denied .