Just bought one of the above but also looked into the other. There are some similarities but I think I've made the right choice. Just for a bit of fun - what are your thoughts??
Weatherby MkV Deluxe or Schultz and Larsen Victory
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Kiwiguy
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Considering that between my wife and I we own three Schultz and Larsen Victory rifles, one Legacy and one Classic DL my view may be somewhat biased. We don't own a Mk V but I have played with a couple.
A couple of features that stand out with the S&L rifles are the ability to swap barrels and the fact that their barrels have cut rifling.
Weatherby rifles all come with a three shot .99 MOA group or smaller guarantee when premium factory ammo is used.
As far as I know S&L rifles don't have a group guarantee but our five and three other S&L rifles that I handload for will all produce .5 MOA three shot groups or smaller.
The fact that Roy Weatherby used the S&L rifles for his 378 WM when it was first introduced says a lot for the quality of S&L rifles.
Price wise here in NZ a Mk V Deluxe would cost considerably more than a Grade 2 Schultz and Larsen Victory.
I wouldn't complain if a Mk V came to live in our safe.
A couple of features that stand out with the S&L rifles are the ability to swap barrels and the fact that their barrels have cut rifling.
Weatherby rifles all come with a three shot .99 MOA group or smaller guarantee when premium factory ammo is used.
As far as I know S&L rifles don't have a group guarantee but our five and three other S&L rifles that I handload for will all produce .5 MOA three shot groups or smaller.
The fact that Roy Weatherby used the S&L rifles for his 378 WM when it was first introduced says a lot for the quality of S&L rifles.
Price wise here in NZ a Mk V Deluxe would cost considerably more than a Grade 2 Schultz and Larsen Victory.
I wouldn't complain if a Mk V came to live in our safe.
The Weatherby actions are clunky/agricultural compared to the slickness of the Victory.
There's no doubt the former is a strong action and many wax lyrical about the 9 locking lugs that may or may not all make contact!
K
There's no doubt the former is a strong action and many wax lyrical about the 9 locking lugs that may or may not all make contact!
K
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Hmmmm, I do think the Mark V Deluxe is rather elegant but totally agree with your other points.
It is a nice looking rifle for sure, just reckon the S&L in victory flavour is nicer. Also for me at the moment at least ‘made in the USA’ is not a plus point.
My S&L Victory should arrive at my RFD tomorrow 
Interesting factoid you've raised
"In 1956, we took a step away from Mauser-based designs, commissioning Schultz & Larsen in Denmark to build the 378 Weatherby Magnums using the Schultz & Larsen Model 54 bolt-action. This robust action featured a low bolt-lift and triple gas-escape ports, elements that we later integrated into our proprietary designs".
I have two MkV Deluxes, and one other that isn't a Deluxe, so that answers it.
You'll love the S&L though, I'm sure. They're delightful things.
You'll love the S&L though, I'm sure. They're delightful things.
Sorry to ask on someone else's thread but what's so special about cut rifling? What is the advantage over say, cold hammer forging and machine lapping?
CH
Hi mate, as far as I understand it it is mainly to do with the stress induced on the barrel. By cutting the rifling you are inducing either none or very little stress, minimising the tolerances of the whole process basically.
It’s probably totally irrelevant for us lot shooting deer and AOLQ but I suppose it’s viewed as best of the best for target and match rifles etc.
I don’t know a huge amount about it and there are people on here who will be able to say much better with their huge knowledge. I’ve got an s&l in 6.5 x 55 (bought mainly as I like blue and walnut but also more important they do left hand) and in all my research people mentioned the barrels being superb and a selling point…
Thankyou. I like wood and blued rifles as well and if I went down the route of changing from Sako I'd be looking very closely at an S&L.
CH
Collected the rifle yesterday. It is stunning and handles beautifully - it looks extremely well made. I am 99% over the moon with it with the exception of.........
The safety catch. It is 3-stage but ......
If I go from fire position (position 3) back to the middle position (position 2), which should be 'safe but able to operate bolt' - it still fires?
If I go from from fully safe and unable to operate bolt (position 1) to position 2, it works as it should???
I have contacted the firearms dealer for support.
The safety catch. It is 3-stage but ......
If I go from fire position (position 3) back to the middle position (position 2), which should be 'safe but able to operate bolt' - it still fires?
If I go from from fully safe and unable to operate bolt (position 1) to position 2, it works as it should???
I have contacted the firearms dealer for support.
A year ago a friend bought a new weatherby in 25.06 it would not group with the various new ammo he had. It went back to the shop they said nothing wrong he had it back it shot the same as before. It went back again for the supplier importer to sort out. He had it taken off his tkt and bought another 25.06
Supplier / importer says it shoots ok with 115grn fedral premium at £75.00 a box.
They will not reimburse him for it. It's still sat in the gun shop.
Supplier / importer says it shoots ok with 115grn fedral premium at £75.00 a box.
They will not reimburse him for it. It's still sat in the gun shop.
Just to say...comms and support from Alan Rhone have been outstanding
That's a shame. Customer service/support is so important - when brands/shops/manufacturers get that right, you get customers for life. Ogdens should run a course in customer service
Alan will look after you.Just to say...comms and support from Alan Rhone have been outstanding
I had a rifle sometimes fail to eject properly with the extracted case getting caught up on the bolt. Between Alan and Steve at Ivythorn, they organised to have the rifle collected and expedited back quick smart and Edwin did his stuff and it was returned pronto in perfect working order. Thousands of rounds later, it is still working faultlessly.
Bit annoying but it will be worth the wait as it should definitely not fire in the middle safety position.
John Gryphon
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S&L all day for me.
Why on earth would anyone that stalks deer on foot as opposed to high seat/night shooting want a shiny high gloss finished stock?
The below is copied as is from the Weatherby site with their bold not mine.
FINISH
Barrel / Trigger Guard / Bolt Knob – High Gloss|Gloss AA Walnut Stock
Fineline, diamond point checkering, rosewood forend and grip cap with maplewood spacers
They're pretty, and we all deserve pretty things.
John Gryphon
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Jim,that mirror in my ground will alert every game animal in the area,as said "not for me" the rifle is ok but not that gloss.
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