Septic Arthritis in muntjac x 2

[Puds]

Hello all,

I was out with a friend for a stalk this evening and we both shot muntjac bucks, no more than 300m apart, and both appear to have healed over arthritic knees.
Neither were pustulant, and both deer were observed to be moving normally prior to the shots. Body condition was normal, and lymph nodes clear.

Can anybody advise on whether these are a healed older injury & therefore safe to consume the carcasses, or should they be condemned?

Also, I’m a little concerned as they were not so close together; sheep graze the ground there were taken on, if this could be linked?

Many thanks.

 

[TringSaint]

Safe so consume.

 

[Tim.243]

Hello all,

I was out with a friend for a stalk this evening and we both shot muntjac bucks, no more than 300m apart, and both appear to have healed over arthritic knees.
Neither were pustulant, and both deer were observed to be moving normally prior to the shots. Body condition was normal, and lymph nodes clear.

Can anybody advise on whether these are a healed older injury & therefore safe to consume the carcasses, or should they be condemned?

Also, I’m a little concerned as they were not so close together; sheep graze the ground there were taken on, if this could be linked?

Many thanks.

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[jsimpson]

Hello all,

I was out with a friend for a stalk this evening and we both shot muntjac bucks, no more than 300m apart, and both appear to have healed over arthritic knees.
Neither were pustulant, and both deer were observed to be moving normally prior to the shots. Body condition was normal, and lymph nodes clear.

Can anybody advise on whether these are a healed older injury & therefore safe to consume the carcasses, or should they be condemned?

Also, I’m a little concerned as they were not so close together; sheep graze the ground there were taken on, if this could be linked?

Many thanks.

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Hi

This is tricky. A lot depends on other factors in the carcase. Were the local lymph nodes involved. Was there any other lesions such as abscesses in the gralloch
Was the beast in good condition. Some forms of arthritis are local and probably traumatic in origin BUT you can get septic arthritis with some nasty bugs. So do these checks before deciding on consumption.

 

[Puds]

Hi

This is tricky. A lot depends on other factors in the carcase. Were the local lymph nodes involved. Was there any other lesions such as abscesses in the gralloch
Was the beast in good condition. Some forms of arthritis are local and probably traumatic in origin BUT you can get septic arthritis with some nasty bugs. So do these checks before deciding on consumption.

Checked mesenterics as well as retropharangyal & sub-maxillary (on the one that wasn’t headshot…).
No other abscesses observed in the gralloch, all organs appeared absolutely fine.
Both deer were moving & feeding fine beforehand, body condition was normal.

 

[Buchan]

It's the pre scapular you need to check - in front of the shoulder

 

[Sabian223]

Had this a couple of years back, he was walking absolutely fine. Tough buggers!

 

[Puds]

It's the pre scapular you need to check - in front of the shoulder

Thank you, shall make sure I check that when skinning then & condemn if there’s any sign of swelling/pus.

It just strikes me as odd that we shot two of them with the same thing within such a short distance.

 

[Puds]

Had this a couple of years back, he was walking absolutely fine. Tough buggers!

Any further indications in the lymph nodes etc? Did you condemn it?

 

[75]

It just strikes me as odd that we shot two of them with the same thing within such a short distance.

Maybe suggestion something contagious rather than arthritic?

BUT you can get septic arthritis with some nasty bugs

Just a thought...

 

[Puds]

Maybe suggestion something contagious rather than arthritic?



Just a thought...

I’ll be talking to the shepherd to see if he’s had any issues with joint ill.