Tracking dog book

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Attention @weblyish

 

[WalkedUp]

That is a great front cover shot!

 

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Ràzvan Vald the man who translated and adapted this book was at the stalking show.
He had a stand there promoting hunting in Romania. He said he hopefully will be at the game fair.
This book can be bought off Amazon

 

[RCS Deer Management]

Ràzvan Vald the man who translated and adapted this book was at the stalking show.
He had a stand there promoting hunting in Romania. He said he hopefully will be at the game fair.
This book can be bought off Amazon

Iv got the same book, great read.

 

[Siggy]

Darn, somehow this book just appeared in my amazon basket and is arriving on Wednesday....

 

[wytonpjs]

Iv got the same book, great read.

Me too

 

[weblyish]

Darn, somehow this book just appeared in my amazon basket and is arriving on Wednesday....

Must be an Amazon bug or something.
Same happened to me

 

[Siggy]

Must be an Amazon bug or something.
Same happened to me

Don’t think the bugs is usually to bad, in fact the initial symptoms are quiet pleasant but sometimes it has a secondary phase which can be problematic. The first signs are your wife saying “what’s this package” followed by “how much for a book”

 

[pendle]

Are you all now over your compulsive purchasing bug.

 

[Siggy]

I've nearly finished reading it and have enjoyed it. The translation is a little bit off as I don't think that English is the translators first language and he misses some English idioms, but you can work it out. It's very focused on Hanoverian and Bavarian scent hounds and cold tracking and it's aimed to produce a highly dependable scent hound. Some of the take aways I took were:

1. early tracks are laid across the wind (other texts I have read state up wind or down wind).
2. The progression from early tracks to later tracks is very clearly defined.
3. How the Hanoverian was originally developed prior to the use of firearms to track individual stags from there night time feeding areas to their harbour areas so that particular stags could be hunted by the pack.
4. It has me convinced if you are really serious about cold tracking, a Hanoverian is the first choice (and a Bavarian is the second) as only these breeds have the focus for the long tracks - other dogs get distracted by other behaviours.
5. Young dogs should only have tracks where they almost guaranteed to find the deer to build their cofidence.

 

[Leec6.5]

1. It has me convinced if you are really serious about cold tracking, a Hanoverian is the first choice (and a Bavarian is the second) as only these breeds have the focus for the long tracks - other dogs get distracted by other behaviours.

If you wanna go down that road UK bread dogs are simply not up to the job!

But unfortunately , fortunately the way I see it the only way to get the best cold tracking dog with the pure breeding from Germany.

I’ve trod the German tracking path to its entirety from start to finish, I was a member of the KBGS for over a decade, it’s not an easy option , time money endless travelling to the continent is the only way you will get the very very best out of your dog!

If you’re just tracking in the UK, get a good Labrador, they can be trained nearly as good as a European hound from the relevant breed clubs, and are perfectly adequate for the UK stalker!

What you also have to remember is UK law does not support Cold scent tracking, boundaries and stalkers themselves are the main problem!

I spent 10 years and I’ve been all over the country with my dog, it is not an easy path, too many weak links in the chain for it to be a success.

Thankfully, my dogs have now all passed and I am enjoying the life without,

 

[Leec6.5]

UK bred HS / Bavarian - do not touch with a barge pole!

Tackle - fashion accessory for the stalker - useless walking draught excluder, great if you want to let them off and chase wounded Deer about and push them over the boundary they will not simply hold them to bay!

Pointers - good dogs from the right lines

Labs - very good sharp labs are very hard to come by these days, there are only two breeders that I would personally go to!

Jagt terrier / patterdale - if I was to have another dog, this is what I would have without question, the Jagt terrier or the black torpedo as I call them, or a lean mean hunting machine that in my personal opinion is a problem solver!

I have been on drive hunts where I’ve seen these little black bastards, literally hang off a wounded boar and not release until the owner gets to it but only under protest, a fearless creature that in my personal opinion is the master of all trades trained correctly, but again I would only get one with continental breeding. Certainly I would not get one from the UK.

 

[Siggy]

Jagt terrier / patterdale - if I was to have another dog, this is what I would have without question, the Jagt terrier or the black torpedo as I call them, or a lean mean hunting machine that in my personal opinion is a problem solver!

I have been on drive hunts where I’ve seen these little black bastards, literally hang off a wounded boar and not release until the owner gets to it but only under protest, a fearless creature that in my personal opinion is the master of all trades trained correctly, but again I would only get one with continental breeding. Certainly I would not get one from the UK.

interesting - I think it was in this book but Jagdterriers were mentioned...dangerous game would be tracked by the Hanoverian up until the point were dogs needed to be slipped at which point the Jagd would be released. The reasoning was that the Hanoverian takes 4 years to train, but the Jagdterriers were expendable!