Logging shooting activity

Why should anyone feel compelled to inform the police before engaging in a perfectly lawful activity?

maximus “Ex-bobby” otter
It's just good sense, little trouble and makes it easier if someone complains. I also report to the police 48 hours in advance every car journey I intend to take, every time I intend to carry any money, every time I plan to go to the pub, go shopping, go for a run, pretty much every legitimate activity really..

People say the police are overworked and buried in admin. I can't imagine why. They love it when I call and it is such a good use of taxpayers' money to keep them busy with masses of unnecessary communications.
 
It's just good sense, little trouble and makes it easier if someone complains. I also report to the police 48 hours in advance every car journey I intend to take, every time I intend to carry any money, every time I plan to go to the pub, go shopping, go for a run, pretty much every legitimate activity really..

People say the police are overworked and buried in admin. I can't imagine why. They love it when I call and it is such a good use of taxpayers' money to keep them busy with masses of unnecessary communications.
If you honestly do that, you need to get a LIFE!
 
Why should anyone feel compelled to inform the police before engaging in a perfectly lawful activity?

maximus “Ex-bobby” otter
Only reason is that I have a suspicion he might wrongly report illegal activity involving a firearm and then it would be a pain in the ass dealing with armed response unit and a total waste of their time. I’m out 2 or 3 times a week and would only consider calling in on this place due to a certain set of circumstances. Not compelled as such but I do take your point.
 
We have by Law to login in with Police when we are night shooting and using OOS, very simple, just fill in the pro forma and e-mail to them, non of this waiting 20-30 mins. We have had on several occasions been contacted by the Police to see if we were in that area, and save a wasted journey by officers. There is also a benefit from this is that they do contact us when we run past our finish time and we have not contacted them to say "Finished", this is just another safety net in case something has gone wrong..
Not really a big issue as far as we are concerned, I would rather do that than have an ART turn up and give us the third degree, and have them remove our Firearms because one of us has forgotten his ticket or remove them when they think there has been an offence committed, completely disrupting your evening's work, and then having to go and get them back, which is a nightmare in itself, especially when the officer dealing with it is off duty..
 
We have by Law to login in with Police when we are night shooting and using OOS, very simple, just fill in the pro forma and e-mail to them, non of this waiting 20-30 mins. We have had on several occasions been contacted by the Police to see if we were in that area, and save a wasted journey by officers. There is also a benefit from this is that they do contact us when we run past our finish time and we have not contacted them to say "Finished", this is just another safety net in case something has gone wrong..
Not really a big issue as far as we are concerned, I would rather do that than have an ART turn up and give us the third degree, and have them remove our Firearms because one of us has forgotten his ticket or remove them when they think there has been an offence committed, completely disrupting your evening's work, and then having to go and get them back, which is a nightmare in itself, especially when the officer dealing with it is off duty..
How does that work!!!!!
If the police get a call, they can tell its you and not someone nearby doibg a naughty.
EVEN if you tell the police you will be or are present, they cannot ASSUME the report is you.
If they dont check it out, and an incident occurs, is that not gross professional misconduct.
I had a permisdion at Heathrow. Despite calling that job in and specifically asking the handler to let the ARU's know, we still had two full on Heckler & Koch drop your guns and get on the floor moments. They were not told. After a while, we knew all the crews so they used to swing by for a chat but they STILL had to assume it wasnt us....
Another perm we have shot literally for years is a golf course. A home owner regularly called the police even though he knew exactly who we were claiming all sorts of cr@p.
One night we were lit up by a police chopper and there were about 10 cars and ARU's on the way because he was just spitefilul/cretin/ stupid etc.
I think they had a very string word with him for wasting police time.
There is no legal requirement to notify the police nor log your shoots. I only do so if the location has issues such as the job at heathrow....
EVen the call handlers do not have sufficient training with one insisting I would be prosecuted for failing to inform them.
 
deerlydeparted said - There is no legal requirement to notify the police nor log your shoots.

Voluntarily nvolving authorities about your planned/post shooting activities runs the real risk of authorities liking these identifying reports and turning them from voluntary to being compulsory. There was a state police chief here in Oz who recently made the public comment that no matter how much authority/control they are given they will always want more. I can't see the UK police being any dierent to our Aussie coppers in this regard.
 
I also report to the police 48 hours in advance every car journey I intend to take, every time I intend to carry any money,
Strange that if you were to be stopped by an occifer of the law with say, £1000 in cash upon you, you would have to explain why you had this amount of legal tender, issued by the Bank of England, upon your person :rolleyes:
 
How does that work!!!!!
If the police get a call, they can tell its you and not someone nearby doibg a naughty.
EVEN if you tell the police you will be or are present, they cannot ASSUME the report is you.
If they dont check it out, and an incident occurs, is that not gross professional misconduct.
I had a permisdion at Heathrow. Despite calling that job in and specifically asking the handler to let the ARU's know, we still had two full on Heckler & Koch drop your guns and get on the floor moments. They were not told. After a while, we knew all the crews so they used to swing by for a chat but they STILL had to assume it wasnt us....
Another perm we have shot literally for years is a golf course. A home owner regularly called the police even though he knew exactly who we were claiming all sorts of cr@p.
One night we were lit up by a police chopper and there were about 10 cars and ARU's on the way because he was just spitefilul/cretin/ stupid etc.
I think they had a very string word with him for wasting police time.
There is no legal requirement to notify the police nor log your shoots. I only do so if the location has issues such as the job at heathrow....
EVen the call handlers do not have sufficient training with one insisting I would be prosecuted for failing to inform them.
Yes you do, it is part of the night license and the OOS.
 
Wondered if anyone had logged shooting activity via TVP website? I didn’t see an appropriate heading to use. I’m familiar with 101 and calling in but the wait is long and I feel the police probably have better things to do. Do you get an incident number?
I rarely call in my shooting activity but had someone confront me last night. I have no issue with that and just be polite and give zero information beyond I have permission and everything’s legal (I’ve learned that trying to justify your position is pointless and unnecessary) he was agitated but not aggressive.
Also, I’m thinking some sort of document that could be attached to an email with all relevant details would save a bit of time. Anyone do this?
If we all start doing it, they will make it a requirement. Don't do it unless you really have to. There may be good reasons, such as antis on your boundaries, but otherwise the less they know, the better.
 
deerlydeparted said - There is no legal requirement to notify the police nor log your shoots.

Voluntarily nvolving authorities about your planned/post shooting activities runs the real risk of authorities liking these identifying reports and turning them from voluntary to being compulsory. There was a state police chief here in Oz who recently made the public comment that no matter how much authority/control they are given they will always want more. I can't see the UK police being any dierent to our Aussie coppers in this regard.
And many many deerstalkers absolutely crave more regulation and red tape
 
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