ADG brass
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enfieldspares
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One problem I can relate is PRVI brass. There is only one UK importer and that is Henry Krank. So nobody else gets a "look in" and nobody else in the Uk can have a trade account with PRVI. But Henry Krank don't import the full PRVI range and don't intend to. That's fine except you then cannot get them to order the less frequently asked for items. In effect it is cherry picking which isn't at all serving the shooting community well.
So when I needed brass for my 8x60S rifle I needed to buy it in France and bring it back with me to the UK. Fortunately at that time the law in France allowed free sale of non-military calibre brass cases. Now it requires a permit to be shown to buy any calibre brass. So the worst case is the Henry Krank scenario where an importer only imports a fraction of a manufacturer's catalogue but in getting that agency then "queers" anybody else from dealing with that manufacturer so that UK shooters cannot then get access to the full catalogue.
When I had the UK agency for Dade Speedloaders I made sure I stocked the full range rather than cherry picked and didn't carry a full catalogue. So I also had the correct speedloaders for the Colt Trooper, the .41 Magnum Smith & Wesson, the five shot Smith & Wesson and etc.. There's too many want the cachet of being "the sole UK importer" but then play at it and don't service the whole product line. So I hope that at there end that ADG are insisting any UK importer does the job right or not at all.
So when I needed brass for my 8x60S rifle I needed to buy it in France and bring it back with me to the UK. Fortunately at that time the law in France allowed free sale of non-military calibre brass cases. Now it requires a permit to be shown to buy any calibre brass. So the worst case is the Henry Krank scenario where an importer only imports a fraction of a manufacturer's catalogue but in getting that agency then "queers" anybody else from dealing with that manufacturer so that UK shooters cannot then get access to the full catalogue.
When I had the UK agency for Dade Speedloaders I made sure I stocked the full range rather than cherry picked and didn't carry a full catalogue. So I also had the correct speedloaders for the Colt Trooper, the .41 Magnum Smith & Wesson, the five shot Smith & Wesson and etc.. There's too many want the cachet of being "the sole UK importer" but then play at it and don't service the whole product line. So I hope that at there end that ADG are insisting any UK importer does the job right or not at all.
Have you mailed PRIVI to see if they are aware?
enfieldspares
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A long time ago before 2008 this was and the reply was that the only supply to Henry Krank in the UK so any order must come only via Henry Krank who, as noted, were not at all interested in obtaining any other than what they listed on their website. Which is disappointing if, as below, you see what PRVI actually do make. Heads, banging, brick walls. 
PRVI component cartridge case list. The cynic says that maybe some would sooner sell expensive Bertram brass rather than the much cheaper direct PRVI case. Bertram in .303 Savage which PRVI also manufacture in better consistent quality and at likely half the price or less of the Bertram product yet Krank's don't carry it. The folk at Krank's are good people...but can be frustrating to deal with!
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PRVI component cartridge case list. The cynic says that maybe some would sooner sell expensive Bertram brass rather than the much cheaper direct PRVI case. Bertram in .303 Savage which PRVI also manufacture in better consistent quality and at likely half the price or less of the Bertram product yet Krank's don't carry it. The folk at Krank's are good people...but can be frustrating to deal with!
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www.prvipartizan.com
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As I understand it (and it's been a few years) but importing/exporting was largely done via how much of what could fit in how many full shipping containers. If what you wanted only filled up one, and half of a second shipping container, then the costs quickly ate up any profit.
So, it may just be that there is a limit in cubic feet of shipping for the importer, rather than minimum order.
Like I mentioned, it's been a few years since I've been involved with exporting/importing ammo. But when I was, it was all based on filling up the shipping containers completely. (For some countries, it was actually easier/cheaper to import to the US, then export from the US to the destination country, than trying to ship directly. Largely due to import duties, shipping rates and such.)
I suppose it could be. I've seen it around (it isn't uncommon), but it's pricey. In economic times right now, I'd think they'd have plenty to sell, but could be totally wrong.
I know you guys seem to be still feeling the pinch from the run on components after Ukraine kicked off, but here ammo and components are beginning to sit on shelves a good amount of time. Prices are (slowly) coming down (they'll never reach previous prices, but they are not the stupid level prices we saw several years ago).
Malxwal
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I spoke to a trade contact there, said he wasn't buying any more in as the stock of brass he had wasn't shifting.
Yet Google tells me there's a shortage of 7prc brass generally ?
6.5PRC necked up to 7PRC solves that issue.
Malxwal
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Surely some confusion there, entirely different, unless you're referring to 7-6.5 ?
I guess I'm not following. You said there was a shortage of 7PRC brass. Cannot 6.5PRC brass be necked up to 7PRC?
ETA: Ah, I see now. You'd need to neck down 300 PRC brass. My mistake.
RS99
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I don't believe it can. I have one of each in my hand currently and the 7PRC is maybe half an inch longer than the 6.5PRC
Yeah, as soon as I posted a response, I went and looked. You'd need to form it from 300PRC (and do it in steps with annealing in between steps most likely).
If they made a 7PRC body die, that might also help form the case. Interesting problem to solve....
UpNorthMI
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It seems that ADG is a relatively small company and the US market is indeed huge, their brass is now available on many of the large reloading retail websites. I'm guessing that the UK market is inconsequential to their business growth. There brass is very highly rated but it is expensive and would arrive in the UK at a very large cost premium.
MTheaded but happy
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Gunwerks Brass | Cases | 7 Saum | Creedmoor | PRC Gunwerks Brass | Cases | 7 Saum | Creedmoor | PRC
Gunwerks brass , rebranded ADG .
Gunwerks brass , rebranded ADG .
Kiwiguy
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There have recently been a couple of threads on the Long Range Hunting forum complaining of poor quality control with ADG brass.
Malxwal
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Verified source for that ?
The reviews I'd read on Gunwerks brass weren't favourable.
MTheaded but happy
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1st firing .
Gunwerks,(ADG)
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