SD Proposed insurance deal

JAYB

Administrator
Given the lively debate that followed the offer of a group insurance through SACS, it would appear from the poll results that a few people would be interested in taking up the offer.

The way that it works is that the insurance would be from the same start date for every one, this reduces the admin involved and helps keep the price down, plus the group members would be submitted to SACS in a database, that I would have to prepare. Now even with a kind hearted chap like myself there is a limit, which means that I will not be prepared to submit members in a "drip feed" fashion. I was thinking that if enough members were willing to sign on, say next week, then I would prepare the data base and get the ball rolling.

Obviously there will be people who will want to join during the first year of it's existence, of course they can but their membership would only be until the annual expiry date, which would mean upon renewal all members would start at the same time, the same would obviously apply to all members joining subsequent to the first year. There would be a reduction in subscriptions for members who join late, I do not know by how much yet so please don't ask, but the reduction is not likely to be on a monthly basis more likely on a quarterly basis. Something along the lines of if you join in the first three months of the year you will pay the full amount, the second three months a reduced amount, and so on throughout the twelve months.

Ian Clark of SACS is in Ireland at the moment and will not be back until tomorrow, so I cannot contact him until tomorrow afternoon at the earliest, to finalise prices etc, but it is most likely to £26 for the whole year. I can then get the necessary forms from him for members to fill in, payment will be made to SD by bank transfer and we shall pay SACS the whole amount.

This will only go ahead if enough people take up the offer initially, I am not spending half my life with membership applications on a daily basis for the next year, if that sounds harsh I'm sorry but this site is a hobby not a career. For those that are wanting to join up next week please contact me by pm.

John
 
sounds fair enough to me ,as it happens my ngo membership expires in june anyhow so does my mates will be in touch
 
I have been approached by several people asking if family membership was available, also was it possible for existing members of SACS to transfer to a SD group membership.

Family membership is available, it cost £60 and covers two adults at an address together with children up to 18 years of age.

Existing SACS members can transfer their membership which means their next renewal would be at the beneficial club rate, we need a minimum of 8 members to qualify for the club discount.

John
 
Gents could those of you wanting in please send a pm to that effect, that way I can keep all interested parties in one place, I'm trying to keep it as easy as I can FOR ME :shock:

John
 
It would appear that those of you who have SACS membership already but would like to be included in the group insurance deal when they renew, if you supply me with your name and membership number you can be transferred onto the SD group list.

John
 
Maybe Ian Clarke could copy and paste on here the SACS legal insurance policy ? So prospective members would know exactly what they would be paying for and the full extent of the coverage.
 
You could always go to their website and have aq look for yourslef if you want.

John

Maybe Ian Clarke could copy and paste on here the SACS legal insurance policy ? So prospective members would know exactly what they would be paying for and the full extent of the coverage.
 
Guys we all need insurance but dont forget that NGO, BASC etc do so much more than just give you an insurance package! SACS do not help in England or Wales so those of you in E & W must keep your NGO or BASC membership up.

Both organisations work hard to ensure that we have a sport or business in the future. The NGO for example have been working hard with DEFRA looking at the Buzzard licensing issue as well as RTA's etc (sorry I am only a member of NGO so couldnt tell you what BASC are up to).

As long as you are counted in the country that you live in that is all I am saying - it is a sad day when we all become very selfish and only think about our own insurance and not the bigger picture.

Also the leagal fees insurance is a very tricky one. You must follow the preceedure exactly or they will not pay, that includes making the first phone call if you end up inside to the insurance company and not your lawer!!

NGO offer free legal advice to all members on a 24 hours a day help line. Really useful if you find your self in a cell with your wellies outside!
 
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Guys we all need insurance but dont forget that NGO, BASC etc do so much more than just give you an insurance package! SACS do not help in England or Wales so those of you in E & W must keep your NGO or BASC membership up.

Both organisations work hard to ensure that we have a sport or business in the future. The NGO for example have been working hard with DEFRA looking at the Buzzard licensing issue as well as RTA's etc (sorry I am only a member of NGO so couldnt tell you what BASC are up to).

As long as you are counted in the country that you live in that is all I am saying - it is a sad day when we all become very selfish and only think about our own insurance and not the bigger picture.

Also the leagal fees insurance is a very tricky one. You must follow the preceedure exactly or they will not pay, that includes making the first phone call if you end up inside to the insurance company and not your lawer!!

NGO offer free legal advice to all members on a 24 hours a day help line. Really useful if you find your self in a cell with your wellies outside!

I think, in fact I know you are way off track with some of your information, SACS represents members from all over the UK and not just Scotland. You seem to know about insurance claims and the procedure involved, I assume you mean this procedure is the same with all insurance companies. If you wish to praise or for that matter denigrate a company then I have no problem with that, it is your opinion and you are entitled to it, but please do be factually correct that's all I ask.

John
 
My appologies, I seem to have upset a couple of you.

I have had no dealings with SACS and did look on the website. I couldnt find anything that they have done recently that helped English or Welsh shooters or stalkers appart from the insurance package.

They seem to be doing well in Scotland however, which is great if your live and work in Scotland. Countryside laws are devolved in all the home countries so we need to be well represented in all. If you shoot in Scotland and England then SACS or SGA would represent you North of the boarder and BASC, CA or NGO in the South.

What bits did I get wrong? You only learn by asking and being told.
 
The bit where you said SACS does not help if you live in England or Wales, your evidence for this is what exactly.

You have not upset me I was just pointing out an inaccuracy in your post as was finnbear270, we have learnt from experience the trouble that can be unleashed on here when inaccuracies have been posted. You seem to miss the point the aim is to have an organisation that will look after your interest both North and South of the border and when you are abroad plus having a good insurance package, it matters not which one as long as you are satisfied with it. It just so happens that I am fortunate enough to be in a position to enable a deal, that I think is a good one, to be open to our members. Their taking it up is a matter entirely for them I do not try to sway them one way or the other, but it order for them to make up their minds I think it is a little unfair and obstructive for you to post inaccuracies, which you seem reticent to retract.

John
 
I think the concern is not that they will not act on behalf of individual members in England/Wales, because they clearly do and many English members of SACS benefit from the SACS insurance (including me); the concern is that SACS wider lobbying activities appear to me to be directed at the Scottish Parliament and not necessarily at Westminster given Scotland's devolved status. I would be delighted to be proved wrong, but I think prospective SACS members should bear this in mind as it may be short sighted in the long-run to choose an organisation solely on insurance grounds alone.

Do I misunderstand SACS position?
 
I think the concern is not that they will not act on behalf of individual members in England/Wales, because they clearly do and many English members of SACS benefit from the SACS insurance (including me); the concern is that SACS wider lobbying activities appear to me to be directed at the Scottish Parliament and not necessarily at Westminster given Scotland's devolved status. I would be delighted to be proved wrong, but I think prospective SACS members should bear this in mind as it may be short sighted in the long-run to choose an organisation solely on insurance grounds alone.

Do I misunderstand SACS position?
It may be that some can no longer afford the cost of a BASC type of membership, i can`t this year or next as far as i can see. Maybe it`s a case of some insurance is better than none and not a case of lobby this and lobby that.
 
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