I think it has now been established that, as well as complete rounds, S5 bullets do in fact need to be added to the FAC.
Importing expanding missiles from abroad - BASC clarify position
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I think it has now been established that, as well as complete rounds, S5 bullets do in fact need to be added to the FAC.
mereside
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it shows though what exactly you are using when you need to talk to police , i managed to get my cert opened up on the amount of bullets i was using ,this does make a difference with the feo even though people say otherwise ,it is good practice to show your usage, atb wayne
It does show your useage, but for S5 bullets it is apparently a legal requirement, not merely 'good practice'.
I'm not sure it is constructive use evidence of large numbers of rounds fired to justify the removal of territorial restrictions, although undoubtedly many FLDs seem to do this. Rather, it strike me as the kind of nonsense taht ought to be discouraged, rather than supported.
Not according to the home office guide. Section 3 PARA 3 .
Tackleberry270
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I can see your point but you could also prove it with receipts. Too many people seem to think that they they would be commiting an offence by not entering them on their certificate and it just adds to the confusion when it comes to threads such as this one.
Expanding bullets do not have to be entered on ones certificate and BASC has also written guidance on this issue if you had concerns.
I think that this has been found to be incorrect guidance.
I think the current BASC guidance says exactly the opposite.
mereside
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yes that is my point reciept or entering onto an fac to show usage , dalua im not just talking about letting off hundreds of rounds for the sake of it but proving you are shooting properly and deer numbers being culled and showing exactly how many outings you are doing proves a point , some people only go out a couple of times a year or firing a few rounds and wanting conditions removing like you read all the time doesnt help a case. i would rather show my usage and justify what im doing with proof to back things up, atb wayne
What you say really sums up my reservations about the relevance of the number of rounds fired. Territorial restrictions on experienced FAC-holders are rarely justified in terms of public safety. Evidence of actually going out taking quarry safely is, as you say, relevant: whereas evidence of numbers of rounds fired really isn't.
Tackleberry270
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mmm.... Have had a look on their website and it looks like BASC changed their stance on this a matter of months ago! (PDF dated July 2012) No wonder there is confusion around the subject.
The FAC table requires the authority of the person transferring. As foreign senders have no UK domestic authority then the cannot fill out the ammo table. There is no requirement for you to complete it yourself. Upon import if missiles etc at a port where you have the goods as "merchandise in baggage" I.e. hold luggage or luggage with you on a ferry then customs will sign it on for you as the certificate instructions require customs to do.
Yes indeed
Authorised carrier only from dealer to dealer only and a face to face exchange due to the firearms act, can't be posted to your door.
careful!!! If one person places an order for 600 for three people who only have permission to acquire 200 the person who made the order will be in illegal possession of 400 on arrival!!!!
This is a good point, but if you import "by way of trade or business" then you commit an offece without an RFD certificate.
Ahem!!! I hope people aren't
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