Just wondered how regularly people come across deer with shotgun shot in them .
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How often do you see this?
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Just wondered how regularly people come across deer with shotgun shot in them .
jamross65
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shot a doe once right on last light. By the time I was gralloching her it was pretty dark. when I removed the liver to keep I felt a few small hard lumps on the surface of it. Whenin the light I could see there were 4 or 5 pellets about number 6 shot, imbedded in the liver. She was none the worse for wear to be honest but all I could think was that if the arsehole who did it was close enough for the pellets to penetrate so deeply as to reach and stop in the liver, then they were close enough to have aimed at the head and made a clean job of it.
Conclusion: mindless idiots...
Conclusion: mindless idiots...
Exactly, unfortunately there are shoots in our locality who openly tell guns to try and shoot any deer they see on shoot days 
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.6.5/284matt
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Me and pirate hunter off here once shot a Munty each within seconds of each other about half a mile apart. We met up back at the van to gralloch them in the headlights. Both muntys were riddled with shotgun pellets all in the ar5e or up the back where they'd been shot at running away and mine also had a cut right across its chest which was a graze from a bullet.
Matt.
Matt.
ruby tuesday
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from my records shot three fallow last year with shot gun pellets in their backends and one roebuck with an airgun pellet, the assholes that do this must be better at stalking than me as i seem to struggle to get close enough with my rifle.Deer stalker Mark shot a fallow buck that someone had shot through both backleg joints and from the angle of the bullet holes(deer legal i think) it must have been broadside!
alberta boy
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I shot an average white-tail a few yrs back that had a perfectly mushroomed 30 cal bullet ( there was enough shank to measure with a micrometer) just under the skin in its neck. It must have passed through another deer or obstical first as it was fully expanded but didn't have the energy to penetrate more than about an inch. The wound was completely healed, as a matter of fact I only noticed it when skinning the animal out. I was skinning away when I felt my knife hit somethig hard.
I knew a Fish and Wildlife officer (long gone now, RIP) who had to shoot a problem Black Bear back in the 70's. During the post mortem exam, they found the bear had been shot in the head,chest and neck with a shotgun and survived. He never did find out who'd shot it, they wouldn't have been procecuted,he was just curious as to what happened. We both wondered if the bear may have got him, I guess we'll never know
I knew a Fish and Wildlife officer (long gone now, RIP) who had to shoot a problem Black Bear back in the 70's. During the post mortem exam, they found the bear had been shot in the head,chest and neck with a shotgun and survived. He never did find out who'd shot it, they wouldn't have been procecuted,he was just curious as to what happened. We both wondered if the bear may have got him, I guess we'll never know
deerstalker.308
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ive shot hundreds of deer around thetford, never yet found one with anything untoward in it......
palmer_mike
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Other than being a crap shot
Have not seen any with shotgun pellets for sometime, it used to be quite common in Roe when driving them to shotguns was still legal in the 60s 70s Roe were seen as nothing more than vermin maybe more so here in the north
it was common practise for estates to organise Roe drives after the game season was finished, Roe were also quite often shot on walked up days.
In actual fact a shotgun can be quite effective at killing Roe in the right hands, the trouble with a lot of these Roe drives was the experience of those involved, while you had the keepers who knew what they were doing, tenant
farmers were often invited, as were people who might have helped out on shoot days beaters etc.
To be effective on Roe and avoid wounding the shot needs to be taken at very close range, no more than about 15 yards, and I have seen shots taken at double that range by the inexperienced.
Thankfully by the late 60s European sportsmen began to show an interest in coming to the UK to stalk Roe bucks
and estates began to realise there was a potential income to be made from letting Roe stalking and the practise of driving went into decline, eventually changes in the law would make using a shotgun all but illegal except in certain circumstances.
Jimbo while I have heard of the practise you mention, I think its more likely to be poor marksmanship at too great a range, I would imagine they have been trying to shoot them in the back of the neck as they ran off, possibly on a walked up type shoot, again the back of the neck shot is an effective shot, but you need to be close.
There is provision in law for shotgun use on deer in certain circumstances, hopefully most people will never need to use one, IMO the restrictions on shotgun use was one of the best acts ever in deer legislation.
it was common practise for estates to organise Roe drives after the game season was finished, Roe were also quite often shot on walked up days.
In actual fact a shotgun can be quite effective at killing Roe in the right hands, the trouble with a lot of these Roe drives was the experience of those involved, while you had the keepers who knew what they were doing, tenant
farmers were often invited, as were people who might have helped out on shoot days beaters etc.
To be effective on Roe and avoid wounding the shot needs to be taken at very close range, no more than about 15 yards, and I have seen shots taken at double that range by the inexperienced.
Thankfully by the late 60s European sportsmen began to show an interest in coming to the UK to stalk Roe bucks
and estates began to realise there was a potential income to be made from letting Roe stalking and the practise of driving went into decline, eventually changes in the law would make using a shotgun all but illegal except in certain circumstances.
Jimbo while I have heard of the practise you mention, I think its more likely to be poor marksmanship at too great a range, I would imagine they have been trying to shoot them in the back of the neck as they ran off, possibly on a walked up type shoot, again the back of the neck shot is an effective shot, but you need to be close.
There is provision in law for shotgun use on deer in certain circumstances, hopefully most people will never need to use one, IMO the restrictions on shotgun use was one of the best acts ever in deer legislation.
Deutsch - Drahthaar
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Found this FAC .22 air rifle pellet when I caped the poor beast. It was lodged in between one of its vertebra in the neck and showed no sign of distress. Turned out to be a gold medal shot in Buckinghamshire.
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