Patience young man patienceit always pays to wait sometimes.
Duely noted ! But it's e anticipation that brings on the adrenalin !
A question for professional deerstalkers/ Hunting guides?
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Duely noted ! But it's e anticipation that brings on the adrenalin !
deerwarden
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The ones who are a few yards behind you glassing an area you already have, and a deer has just presented its self nicely, at shootable distance, you have carefully set up the sticks for him to take the shot, turn around and hes not there close to you as told to be. Foreign clients seem to be the worse for this. He then charges forward, rifle flying about in all directions, deer clears off and he no longer understand english as well as he did on the pre stalk chat about how you wanted him to stay close to you at all times , do what you do, and just be ready for the shot to be taken.deerwarden
Wildboar1973
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Wildboar1973
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Did one of you ever get the "cowboy-styled" type of hunter out for a hunt from a stand for a roebuck?
I had him, a few years ago: A client/friend from the landowner, showing up about 1 hour later than planned. Then a looong change into brandnew, noisy, useless but of course expensive hunting clothes.
In between a short talk about the hunt: We go on a stand together, there should be a good cull roebuck showing up, ....
A looong talk about his hunting experience, flavoured with some amazing trophy-pictures...
Then out, ready to drive about a mile to the stand with his car, because my shoulder was badly injured and I wasnt allowed to drive a car. No problem, but he had to prepare his shiny new Nissan Terrano... Another fifteen minutes later, the roebuck was sure enough already feeding towards the expected stand, there he was, my hero:
Left hand on his belt a king-size bowie-knife, able to cut the biggest moose into two pieces with one strike, on the right hand a revolver, about 6 inch I think, and on his shoulder a semi-auto 30-06....!
OK, late, no further discussion, so out on he stand, as quiet as possible.... Next problem:Because of his war tools on his belt he couldnt sit properly on the seat, both things sticking in the wooden board.... Somehow and noisy enough it finally worked out, the poor litlle roebuck showed up, I told him to shoot, but wasnt quick enough to remember the semi-auto.... And here was this f.... hot empty catridge flipping around our little tower, thankfully not resting in my neck or so....
After approaching the dead little buck, he didnt touch it, no closer look, just a fug after the other... I asked him to do the gralloching...Wrong question! He wouldnt / couldnt do it... Me neither, because of my shoulder... So I dragged it to his car and he prepared the car for THE TRANSPORT of a 16 kg (not cleaned yet) roebuck: A plastice folie, about 4x4 m was used to wrap in the little thing, then it went on the bull defender of his car and got fixed by about 15 m of rope!
5 minutes after his hardest part of the work, we got to game keepers house, the game keeper saw my cowboy hero, heard my short story, started smiling and cleaned the little buck, already a little blown up, after taking quite a while to find his way through the bondage style package and hang it up in the cooler....
What a hero this cowboy was!
Almost as good as the one wetting himself because of excitement.....
Or the one shooting 3 young cattle instead of red deer.....
Or the one with a clear miss (in the snow) and a 28 m track with my bloodhound to find a stone dead red stag....
Or the friend from the landowner, shaking like a leaf when preparing to shoot a red hind, handing me the rifle ("we wont tell anybody"), all that after a self (not asked) introduction: my elephant, my buffalo, my.....
Or....
A lot of stories to tell, does it make me laugh?
Yes, inner smiling, of course. It makes me upset, when my efford gets ruined by rude behaviour. When having clients out, I usually expect the most unexperienced hunter I may think of, so I usually dont get mad if they stumble over their feet.
No smiling at all, when safety is involved. I dont care about the guest at all if something with safety relevance goes wrong! Sorry, I just have one life and wanna be out tomorrow again!
atb to all of you out there dealing with all these characters,
Michael
I had him, a few years ago: A client/friend from the landowner, showing up about 1 hour later than planned. Then a looong change into brandnew, noisy, useless but of course expensive hunting clothes.
In between a short talk about the hunt: We go on a stand together, there should be a good cull roebuck showing up, ....A looong talk about his hunting experience, flavoured with some amazing trophy-pictures...
Then out, ready to drive about a mile to the stand with his car, because my shoulder was badly injured and I wasnt allowed to drive a car. No problem, but he had to prepare his shiny new Nissan Terrano... Another fifteen minutes later, the roebuck was sure enough already feeding towards the expected stand, there he was, my hero:
Left hand on his belt a king-size bowie-knife, able to cut the biggest moose into two pieces with one strike, on the right hand a revolver, about 6 inch I think, and on his shoulder a semi-auto 30-06....!
OK, late, no further discussion, so out on he stand, as quiet as possible.... Next problem:Because of his war tools on his belt he couldnt sit properly on the seat, both things sticking in the wooden board.... Somehow and noisy enough it finally worked out, the poor litlle roebuck showed up, I told him to shoot, but wasnt quick enough to remember the semi-auto.... And here was this f.... hot empty catridge flipping around our little tower, thankfully not resting in my neck or so....
After approaching the dead little buck, he didnt touch it, no closer look, just a fug after the other... I asked him to do the gralloching...Wrong question! He wouldnt / couldnt do it... Me neither, because of my shoulder... So I dragged it to his car and he prepared the car for THE TRANSPORT of a 16 kg (not cleaned yet) roebuck: A plastice folie, about 4x4 m was used to wrap in the little thing, then it went on the bull defender of his car and got fixed by about 15 m of rope!
5 minutes after his hardest part of the work, we got to game keepers house, the game keeper saw my cowboy hero, heard my short story, started smiling and cleaned the little buck, already a little blown up, after taking quite a while to find his way through the bondage style package and hang it up in the cooler....
What a hero this cowboy was!
Almost as good as the one wetting himself because of excitement.....
Or the one shooting 3 young cattle instead of red deer.....
Or the one with a clear miss (in the snow) and a 28 m track with my bloodhound to find a stone dead red stag....
Or the friend from the landowner, shaking like a leaf when preparing to shoot a red hind, handing me the rifle ("we wont tell anybody"), all that after a self (not asked) introduction: my elephant, my buffalo, my.....
Or....
A lot of stories to tell, does it make me laugh?
Yes, inner smiling, of course. It makes me upset, when my efford gets ruined by rude behaviour. When having clients out, I usually expect the most unexperienced hunter I may think of, so I usually dont get mad if they stumble over their feet.
No smiling at all, when safety is involved. I dont care about the guest at all if something with safety relevance goes wrong! Sorry, I just have one life and wanna be out tomorrow again!
atb to all of you out there dealing with all these characters,
Michael
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Pine Marten
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I think I may have met that guy in a Sussex pub on saturday evening with Sikamalc...
Wildboar1973
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Pine Marten!
Watch out, maybe its a sharpshooter (not a sniper)
!
I am sure Sikamalc will know... Hopefully the truth, the coming out wont wreck this forum...
Watch out, maybe its a sharpshooter (not a sniper)
!I am sure Sikamalc will know... Hopefully the truth, the coming out wont wreck this forum...
Harry mac
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Both times I've been abroad hunting my rifle's arrived on a different plane. When I went to S.A. it arrived 3 hours later
when I went to Estonia it was 3 days, even erGrandhubert
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So with that in mind, would you be so good as to explain the following?
This is poor taste Ian, anyone who has had any contact with you knows exactly who you're referring to with these "oblique" references.
If it's poor form to comment on stalking clients bringing up that night out in Bognor is simply beyond the pale.
Amir, me old son of Abraham ,
- I would never reveal personal details that could identify all, or any of my more feckless, reckless or unusual clients. Alas, I was not even thinking of you......... there are soooo many!
Bognor was not even 'special' for me!
Best,
Ian
- I would never reveal personal details that could identify all, or any of my more feckless, reckless or unusual clients. Alas, I was not even thinking of you......... there are soooo many!
Bognor was not even 'special' for me!
Best,
Ian
Leon
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Certainly, do not identify the Client - but that is not what this thread is about.
I want you to bring a rifle for stalking - not a bull barrelled, bipod mounted, sniping tool - we shoot out to an absolute maximum of 300m & standard profile barrels will do just fine.
Bring a soft rifle case for when we go out stalking, your NBC approved Peli case is a bit awkward to transport.
Rgds
Ian
At least you didnt mention snoring......
andreas1980
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I think for me it has to be when you have spent alot of time and effort finding and getting into a deer and then the person with you gets too excited and cant stop fidgeting about when you want them to be still.
Cos youre close in you cant tell them to shut up or make too many gesrures to tell them to quit it.
I got a right bollicking off my old man for spooking a deer when I was 10. That was lesson leatned
Cos youre close in you cant tell them to shut up or make too many gesrures to tell them to quit it.
I got a right bollicking off my old man for spooking a deer when I was 10. That was lesson leatned
Harry mac
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I remember only too well some of the mistakes I made as a novice. "Losing" my knife by dropping the graloch over it was one. Getting completely disorientated in a large wood and taking an hour to find my RV point was another.
Most common seems to be stalking too quickly and looking at cover rather than through it.
Most common seems to be stalking too quickly and looking at cover rather than through it.
Wildboar1973
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Better to realize to be too excited and decide not to shoot than an itchy finger wounding all kinds of animals without showing any respect!
andreas1980
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Absolutely. Always best to leave it if unsure.
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