In which the Pine Marten picks on Asiatic deer species.

Part 1: Chinese water deer

After eight months of anticipation, during which quite a lot of important things happened, I have a Chinese water deer in my sights, and they’re weaving all over the place. Thirty seconds before, I had been chatting with Sikamalc, having set forth from the B&B five minutes earlier, we’d just turned the corner of a field near a large haystack, when he stopped and urgently whispered “There! Use the haystack!”. It was like being awoken suddenly, I hadn’t really mentally started stalking yet, but I put up my rifle, put the deer about 100 metres away in the crosshairs. Unfortunately the sudden adrenaline rush meant that my reticule was doing figures-of-eight all over the deer’s body. I couldn’t stabilise it, and I didn’t want to risk injuring it, and then it moved off, so I stood down. This turned out to be a mistake, because it only sauntered off a few metres. “It’s stopped again” says Malc. What? But I haven’t come down from the previous excitement yet! OK, back up on the haystack. This time I try to control my breathing, it’s better than last time, I hold the crosshairs on the chest, squeeze the trigger, squeeze, squeeze, and the deer’s off again, before I had time to squeeze hard enough to let the shot off. Perhaps a case of exercising a little too much trigger control there. All of that took about a minute and a half. “You’re going to have to be faster than that, mate. That could be your chance for the morning”. Yes, I know, damn it. Now in my mind I’m falling back on my usual silver linings: I’ve seen my first Chinese water deer. I didn’t risk wounding it. And then I think that it’s not even 8am, the sun’s very low in the sky, and we haven’t finished yet.

We move off to another area. At the crest of a hill we stop to glass the area to the right. After a few minutes, from about a kilometre away, we (I mean Malc of course, but I’m going to say “we” for stylistic purposes) spot four deer grazing on a field near the end a hedge that stops halfway through it. They’re just under the top of a ridge, presumably a little sheltered from the wind, so we head off around the area to arrive downwind of them, with a possible hidden approach path. This is different from before, there are no surprises here. We know exactly where the deer are, that they’re out in the open with little cover, and that we will stick out like sore thumbs if we peep over a ridge. We walk to the edge of the first field, stop to glass, but can’t see them. We can see the hedge though, on the other side of which they should be. They probably can’t see us, so he move, increasingly stooped, across the next field until we enter a shallow dip. Now we can’t see them, we think they’re over the crest of the ridge, through the hedge, but we don’t know, so we’re low, slow, quiet. My pulse is racing now, but it’s not panic like before. This is just alertness, concentrating on not ruining this opportunity. Near the end of the gully, we can just peep over the ridge to glass the next field. There’s one deer a long way off, in a totally different place, and we think they’ve moved since we first saw them. We move up the slope towards the hedge, and suddenly we’re proved wrong: there they are, still grazing peacefully, through the hedge, down the other side of the slope. We pull back, back up the gully, meaning to approach them upslope from our side of the hedge. At this point, Malc says “I’ll leave you to it”. I’ve never done this before, but I’m not particularly worried about my ability to move stealthily. So off I go, slower and slower, lower and lower, keeping below the skyline. I can glimpse the deer as they move in and out of holes in the hedge. Then I’m on all fours. Just before the ditch in front of the hedge, I bring my binoculars up, but I realise that I can’t tell whether these are bucks or does, and that my selection criterion now is whether I can find a clear line of sight through the hedge. So I ditch the binoculars and start to move sideways towards a likely-looking hole in the hedge. There are a couple of twigs across the left-hand hole, but the right-hand one is clear, so the deer in that window is the target. I’m lying on my front, rifle shouldered, I control my breathing, this should be a straightforward shot, perhaps eighty metres away. This time, it’s a relaxed shot from a good rest, so I set the trigger to avoid a repeat of earlier events. Then I just sort of imagine firing and bang! The deer goes down on the spot. I reload, watch for signs of movement through the scope, there are a few twitches. “It’s not going anywhere! You can go and see what you got” says Malc.

The feeling of relief is immense, then pride starts to creep in. It’s last year’s doe, a beautiful little animal. I look around for something to give it a “last bite”, but there’s just nothing around yet in February. Malc gives me a hug, which can’t be part of the usual service. My first Chinese water deer. But with hindsight, that’s not the point: I owe Malc my first real stalk on my own. I have photos, a deer, and I’ll look at the pictures, and eat the deer. But what will remain will be the knowledge that I know I can do this. So Malc, my heartfelt thanks for that, because that's something that I can keep.

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(Part 2 to follow)
 
he's found the muntjac particularly tough to skin afterwards (not a problem you'll encounter up there, for the time being at least).

Muntjac have ridiculously tough skin. They're even not that straightforward to unzip, and skinning them blunts all your knives very quickly. They have this quite thick layer of flat muscle bonded to the skin that come off with it too. The one I shot this weekend didn't have an exit wound: it turns out that the bullet hit the humerus on the way in, was deflected upwards and pulverised the spine above. The internal organs were almost untouched. No idea where the bullet went, it must have stayed inside and been discarded with the gralloch. Certainly it didn't have enough energy to pierce the skin on the way out. This thing was peppered with shot too, which didn't seem to have done any lasting damage. They are remarkably tough little creatures.
 
It is becoming increasingly apparent PM that you need to convenience and portability of a combination gun or drilling. There is a nice merkel side lock 16/ 7x57r with an extra pair of 16 bore barrels at Holts sale on 20th march. It would fit inside your rucksak!


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It is becoming increasingly apparent PM that you need to convenience and portability of a combination gun or drilling. There is a nice merkel side lock 16/ 7x57r with an extra pair of 16 bore barrels at Holts sale on 20th march. It would fit inside your rucksak!

Well exactly. That's just what I was telling Sikamalc on Saturday afternoon. The only thing is that it's just become apparent that we need to have the roof repointed, which is going to eat up my drilling budget, such as it was. Which is to say, mostly imaginary.
 
Superbly written account again PM and well done on all counts. (I do enjoy your scribes!) As has been said it is some commitment you have to get out stalking. There can't be many people who have to negotiate the obstacles you do to get out and I chuckled at your extraction system too.

Will you be attending Bisley for the H4H shoot?

Stratts
 
Superbly written account again PM and well done on all counts. (I do enjoy your scribes!) As has been said it is some commitment you have to get out stalking. There can't be many people who have to negotiate the obstacles you do to get out and I chuckled at your extraction system too.

Will you be attending Bisley for the H4H shoot?

Stratts

I'm glad you enjoy my accounts of my rare outings. I often think that fishing and hunting aren't about catching or shooting things, they're about telling the tale! My brother-in-law just sends me emails with pictures of him next to dead animals. Now I've taught him that it isn't good enough. I need a story.

I plan on being at Bisley, yes, if Young PM doesn't cause any trouble.
 
Epilogue: public transport deer extraction.

In the photo below you can see the Pine Marten Public Transport Deer Extraction System (patent pending) during its’ first full test in the field. It consists of a collapsible icebox on a foldable luggage trolley. When not in use, the trolley is packed inside the flattened icebox, which all fits in my rucksack with my other stuff. It took a little fiddling around to balance the box so that it didn’t tip over, but once that was done, ferrying over 20kg of muntjac and CWD discretely was almost a doddle. I mean it’s still quite a lot of effort to drag that, a rifle slip and a rucksack on the train and through the Tube, but it’s not impossible by any means, and no-one noticed or cared. A single roe fits in here too.

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Finally, munties are a huge pain to skin, blunt all the knives and take ages. Subsequently, skinning the CWD was almost a pleasure as their skin comes off like a rabbit’s. It’s a wonder it stays on in the wind in the first place. There’s CWD hair blowing all over my shed and garden now.

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Taking the deer on the train, you are a legend.:tiphat:
Enjoyable read yet again.
Well done
 
Great write up Pine Marten and congratulations on your first CWD. I was the very lucky fella to take my first brace of CWD with Malc the day before. I know exactly what you mean about the hair getting everywhere!

I was chuckling about your transportation of deer and firearms across London when Malc told me. I wasn't quite so subtle hanging my deer outside the back door in full view of the neighbours. Probably not ingratiated ourselves having only moved in 6 days earlier. Oh well!

Si.
 
So PM, when are you going to learn to drive ?
I have to say you do show a fair bit of determination in your exploits as far as travel goes.
I know I couldn't do it, no way could I carry a days fishing tackle on the train, and probably not a nights lamping gear.

Neil. :)
 
Congratulations PM, on the stalk, the write up, and on producing some great aphorisms! I suspect I speak for many when I say you're fast becoming the SD's leading humourist.

Just a selection of the delights provided by PM on this thread:

Chuckles:

"I ask them how they would go about doing it, to which they often reply that they just wouldn't. Which is a fair point, it just never occurred to me that this was an option. I didn't set out to find a way not to go stalking!"

"[...] my drilling budget, such as it was. Which is to say, mostly imaginary." [Funny, I have a double-rifle budget like that! (Fortunate then that the gun at Holt's wasn't actually a drilling!)]

Wisdom:

"Fishing and hunting aren't about catching or shooting things, they're about telling the tale!

Plus a killer, a one-shot formula to grass the next "pictures of dead stuff" debate:

"Pictures of dead animals aren't good enough. We need a story."

A fine job all round. Congratulations PM. We await the next instalment with ill-concealed enthusiasm.
 
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So PM, when are you going to learn to drive ?
I have to say you do show a fair bit of determination in your exploits as far as travel goes.
I know I couldn't do it, no way could I carry a days fishing tackle on the train, and probably not a nights lamping gear.

Neil. :)


Well said Hornet 6! I've been nagging PM to get a driving license for years!

PM, you know it makes sense buddy!
 
Just a selection of the delights provided by PM on this thread:

"Pictures of dead animals aren't good enough. We need a story."

Totally agree but still not convinced the wider SD membership are either a; - ready for or b; - particularly deserving of the effort required to produce a damn “good read”. This assertion lent no little weight by the often pathetic viewing figures for a number of excellent stories as distinct from certain lesser considered posts (I’m being polite!) that boast a strike count of Bankers bonus proportion.

Cheers

K
 
Hornet 6 and Scrumbag:

I have had a driving licence for almost as long as I've had a shotgun certificate. What I don't have is a car. I don't have a car because my need for one is so occasional that I cannot justify the very significant incremental expense of running one. It would be a very expensive luxury. Also, residents of my building in London are not eligible for residents' parking permits, a common stipulation of planning permission for new builds in London now. This is to avoid the situation they have in Kensington & Chelsea for instance where there are twice as many parking permits as there are spaces available in the borough. So even if I did have a car, I wouldn't be able to park it anywhere.

There is a serious consequence to this quite common London situation though, which is that I have done so little driving since passing my test that I have never had a chance to become accustomed to driving. I still have to mentally go through all that "mirror, signal, manoeuvre" stuff whilst remembering in which order to apply the clutch, change gears and so on, never mind concentrating on where I'm going. Since there's been no change in this for almost 20 years and there doesn't seem to be a time on the horizon when I'll have to drive regularly, which would give me the necessary practice to become confident at this, I've decided to stick to automatics, thereby taking out a lot of the complexity. For much the same reasons, my siblings and I bought my mother an iPad for Christmas: in the last 15 years, she had never used her PC sufficiently intensely to become an instinctive user. iPads are computers for people who don't know how to use computers, and automatics are the same thing for crappy drivers.
 
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I know I couldn't do it, no way could I carry a days fishing tackle on the train.
Neil. :)

Really? Fishing tackle's easy! Whenever I go on holiday, if we're going to be anywhere near water, I pack unobtrusive fishing kit. This consists of an 8ft spinning rod that breaks down into four sections, a Mitchell 300 reel loaded with braid, a box of lures, bass bag, priest, and that's it, really. Even when I go down the road to Syon Park, I just need a rod, just about everything else fits in a little rucksack, and I sling my wicker creel over my shoulder which is surplus to requirements, but I just like it. And then I jump on the bus. Yes, ha ha, the bus!

On the other hand, I don't do any carp fishing, so don't need tents, brollies, seats, rod rests, bite detectors, boilies, etc.
 
Great write up Pine Marten and congratulations on your first CWD. I was the very lucky fella to take my first brace of CWD with Malc the day before. I know exactly what you mean about the hair getting everywhere!

I was chuckling about your transportation of deer and firearms across London when Malc told me. I wasn't quite so subtle hanging my deer outside the back door in full view of the neighbours. Probably not ingratiated ourselves having only moved in 6 days earlier. Oh well!

Si.

I heard of your exploits the day before, well done!

I finally finished the butchery process yesterday and the final scores are:

- Two munty haunches (2 x 1.1kg)
- Two munty tenderloins (2 x 400g)
- Two bags of Munty diced stewing bits, mostly neck and shoulder (2 x 700g)
- Two CWD haunches (2 x 1.4kg)
- Two CWD tenderloins (2 x 400g)
- Two bags diced stewing bits (2 x 750g)
- Two bags mixed munty and CWD mince (2 x 800gr)

So I make that 11.1kg of meat, or roughly half the total weight of the animals. Quite a lot of work too.
 
Having not stepped on to public transport for many years now I have no first hand experience of pricing, but I here my youngest niece complain it costs her a small fortune to come home from London for the weekend, so it can't be cheap.
A car can be hired for about £20 a day round here, would this not make sense for your once a month or so outings ?

Neil. :)
 
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