All well but a salutary reminder.

Nimrod1960

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New piece of ground yesterday, landowners want the Munties reduced in densely wooded valley.

Took the .222 as roe not on the agenda. Wandered up and down, getting the layout of the place and bumping a few. Place is overrun with them. But getting a shot without being up in a seat and getting a clean line to target proved tricky/frustrating to say the least.

Golden hour and a young buck comes onto the ride that runs along the top of one side.
I manage to get behind a tree which I also use as a rest instead of the sticks. Nice 85m rising ground behind, safe shot, broadside, bang, down, job done.

Complacent Prat !

Up he jumps as I reload too slow and not focusing through the scope, and crashes down into the thick stuff. Quick curse and out with the thermal to find and retrieve.
Can I find him ? With the damp ground, spring lines, warm tree stumps and cover I start to struggle and then doubt myself. Then that horrible feeling, have I lost it?
Getting dark and crashing around the cover with a sinking feeling. Not least what to say to the landowner who “wanted a humane job done”.

20 mins of thrashing about, now with head torch on, one last try. Back to where I took the shot, then to where he initially fell, picked up the line I think he took and got a heat source that looked promising. Relief there he was under some thick scrub not 20m from where he initially fell.

On reflection, if I had reloaded quicker and stayed focused I could have put another shot in as soon as he kicked up. Got away with it this time.

Confession over !

Sharpen up old boy.
 
We all go through that, several times perhaps.
One bloke I knew was terrible for not reloading quickly.
I always said why don't you get a single shot!
I'm sure if he had a single shot he would reload quicker!!
 
I’ve long since dropped the classic heart/lung shot on Muntjac & simply whack them in the shoulders as an initial aiming point.

Nothing worse than trying to find an animal that’s in cover using a thermal, especially now everything is springing up cover wise. I even struggled to find a fallow in a rape field the other evening!
 
Bust shoulders full stop, the meat on the front end of a carcass it’s too much hassle for what it’s worth even on a red deer you can lose an hour two hours boning and dicing and making a bloody fine mess so skin down behind the shoulders big saw front and straight in the bin not worth the hassle or aggravation!
 
Bust shoulders full stop, the meat on the front end of a carcass it’s too much hassle for what it’s worth even on a red deer you can lose an hour two hours boning and dicing and making a bloody fine mess so skin down behind the shoulders big saw front and straight in the bin not worth the hassle or aggravation!
I beg to differ.
About 30% of the retail value of the carcass is in the front end.
And having respect for one's quarry should extend to having respect for it's carcass, and endeavouring not to waste any part of it.
 
I beg to differ.
About 30% of the retail value of the carcass is in the front end.
And respect for one's quarry should extend to having respect for it's carcass, and endeavouring not to waste any part of it.
That’s if you’re selling it, I don’t sell mine. I eat it and I can earn more money doing other things like my job and worrying about the front end of a venison carcass!
 
@VSS we will always clash over this subject, you trying to scab every penny you can from a carcass, me speaking from a world of practicality!

You keep rolling your pet deer over, I’ll keep rolling over the wild over and filling my freezer and we’ll leave it there.
 
Having come to stalking in middle age, I find the instinctive quick reload the hardest skill to master.
I think we are in the same boat there.
Still, mastering and learning new skills at 60+ in my case is only a good thing.

In many respects I sometimes wish I had got into deer allot earlier, but I just love what it has bought me since I got out of the rat race.
 
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@VSS we will always clash over this subject, you trying to scab every penny you can from a carcass, me speaking from a world of practicality!
It's not about "trying to scab every penny", it's about respect, but having said that I am prepared to use the financial aspect to challenge your assertion that butchering the front end of a carcass is more hassle than it's worth.
You keep rolling your pet deer over, I’ll keep rolling over the wild over and filling my freezer and we’ll leave it there.
The number of wild fallow I've shot and processed this season outweighs the number of "pet deer" I've rolled over.
 
Bust shoulders full stop, the meat on the front end of a carcass it’s too much hassle for what it’s worth even on a red deer you can lose an hour two hours boning and dicing and making a bloody fine mess so skin down behind the shoulders big saw front and straight in the bin not worth the hassle or aggravation!
Nonsense.

Even a sika deer produces several kilos off the shoulders.

If you’re reasonably pragmatic about binning the really damaged bits and don’t waste time with fussing about getting every last scrap, you can reduce a shoulder to chunks more than fast enough to make it worth doing, after costing in your time.

And I have plenty of people who will take a whole shoulder, roe or sika. Win win. Takes me next to no time to prep, and they get very cheap meat.

That said, I’m not terribly fussy about shot placement either. Very prepared to put it through the shoulders if it’s standing somewhere where a run would cause a problem.
 
Coming from a time of rationing, my family woud scape the last bit of meat off a rabbit's ribs. Therefore I retrieve as much as I can from a personal carcase. In fact a Muntjac shoulder(the best bit) in the slow cooker plus veg is enough for the two of us. I would consider scrapping a Sika shoulder almost Sacriledge. My mother always hammered in "Waste not, want not".
 
Coming from a time of rationing, my family woud scape the last bit of meat off a rabbit's ribs. Therefore I retrieve as much as I can from a personal carcase. In fact a Muntjac shoulder(the best bit) in the slow cooker plus veg is enough for the two of us. I would consider scrapping a Sika shoulder almost Sacriledge. My mother always hammered in "Waste not, want not".
Got a sika hind in the chiller at the moment, another week and I’ll bust it up
 
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