£500 for your FAC !

[Reloader708]

One which holds 12 carts is plenty for me!

Have you tried it on driven grouse yet?

 

[Dave Lakes]

But you were talking about crimes committed with air guns for which you said "no ticket required".

Ok I’ll rephrase- not being addressed by this proposal. The point being that any firearms offence always seems to be addressed by tighter controls on FAC/SGC holders when in actual fact most offences seem to be entirely unrelated.

 

[timbrayford]

Fishing rod licenses are the alternative to business rates on fisheries. This way, the money goes to the EA instead of the local government wasters. If fisheries were charged business rates, they would put up there tickets, possibly making smaller setups VATable, so best left as it is.

The EA contend that their work helps to provide an environment in which the fish will thrive, the thought of Hampshire FLD planting game crops across the countryside is nevertheless amusing.

 

[JTO]

The police instigated the SGC, so why shouldn't they pay for it?
Seems like a license to print money for them. Make up what rules you like, then ask others to finance it.
The FAC was brought in because the Russian revolution gave our rulers the jitters.

 

[gixer1]

All this nonsense of looking at the certificate when clearly what they should be looking at is police staffing levels and how the police conduct investigations, most issues (which are a very small percentage) relate to issues where there has been police involvement prior to the event and the police have made a poor judgement call.

It’s simply easier to attack the cert system and blame finances.

 

[Stalker62]

Surely you mean "Good reason"

No.

I was responding directly to @Norfolk Deer Search, who used the word need.

Which is why I used that word (in quotation marks) in my response.

 

[Utectok]

https://committees.parliament.uk/committee/136/scottish-affairs-committee/membership/

 

[Dorset Shakari]

Plymouth inquiry starts on 17th Jan. Stand by for more recommendations.

 

[Sampo]

Maybe they should be increasing the prices of kitchen knife in the capital instead...

 

[VSS]

Maybe they should be increasing the prices of kitchen knife in the capital instead...

Don't jest. There's already been an MP proposing that all pointed / sharp domestic kitchen knives should be banned. Apparently sharp knives are only required by professional chefs, butchers etc.

 

[Sampo]

Don't jest. There's already been an MP proposing that all pointed / sharp domestic kitchen knives should be banned. Apparently sharp knives are only required by professional chefs, butchers etc.

As long as we are able to self identify as butchers...

 

[timbrayford]

No.

I was responding directly to @Norfolk Deer Search, who used the word need.

Which is why I used that word (in quotation marks) in my response.

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I'm sure that the authorities would love the word need in the firearms act instead of good reason, e.g. you don't need a stalking rifle because you could use an estate rifle or you don't need a rifle for target shooting because you could use a club rifle etc.

 

[Bowland blades]

You cannot legislate over things and see the problem fixed . You might train / educate your way out of them with programs like hunter Education and improved quality of FEO's I believe its a two week course here in Lancashire for FEOs ? That's actually one of the good ones and BASC is heavily involved here .

 

[Bowland blades]

we live in a country with probably the strictest firearm laws in the world, thank god we have statistically a very tiny incident of criminal miss use of firearms by firearms certificate holders. Trying to reduce the very tiny number of incidents to zero is like any scientist will tell you like trying to get to absolute zero in temperature, impossible, the closer you get the harder it gets to go lower.
Other than a total ban of all ownership of firearms the risk however small will always remain regardless of the process used to issue firearms certificates, what we need is a government that recognises that, but the chance of that is like winning the lotto.

Lets look at drug and drink driving harder if we want to save lives . Then focus on the plague of street dealing , we are talking thousands of lives a year with that and lots of other crimes as users feed their habbit and dealers fight over territories .
Guns just get more press !