17 Hornet
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175 to 200 yards. I got mine for closer work than that, but it's quite capable out to that sort of range. Above all for some reason, it's hugely enjoyable to shoot!
Flash
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Ive had mine cz 527 for 4 years now and love it
Been reloading for it from day one and use 25gr vmax
Have shot well past 200 with no problems what so ever , its all about shot placement with this fantastic calibre
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I’ve just got my ticket back with a slot for a 17 hornet, my intention is to keep a day scope on the 22 hornet and NV on the 17 ( best of both worlds - in truth I don’t want to part with 22 hornet as it’s a brilliant bit of kit). I’m looking forward to getting the 17 it’s a perfect gap stop between the 22 hornet and the 222
Mike. - what ammunition did you settle on for the 17
.17 hornet is about half the power of .222, .22 hornet is just under .222 power
The choice is very limited but I find Hornady 20 grain V0-Max is very good indeed in my CZ 527. I've not tried reloading yet as the factory ammo is doing everything I want it to.
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HI 25 Sharps
Haven't really gone into fps on the calibers as yet, I use my 22 hornet out to a 100 and the 222 to 200yds ish
I had a bolt break on my 22 hornet, and ended up with a wmr until mended for 3 months, the17 is a back up as most of the foxes I shoot average between 75 & 130 yes distance the 17 should fit in nicely I'm using 45 grn Sp in the 22 Hornet and it does the job with ease the 17 should be great
I don't think I will reload for the 17 when I get it, all factory loads and see what's zeros the best
Happy days
Cheers
Phil
I’m talking power rather than speed, .22 wins on power, 17 wins on speed.
Either will be good for foxes to 130. Enjoy!
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I'm using Winchester 45 grn SP in the 22 hornet ( i had been using 35 grn hornady vmax until one detached itself from the case and took the extractor claw right off and 10 years off my hearing life) and it is a good flattening round for H& L shots, I think I grassed about 15 last week with it and apart from one they all dropped to the shot the other went 2- 3 yds if I can get that out to 150 with 17 I'll be well impressed
Apart from the calibre, there is no real comparison between the two. I have both, my 17HMR is a very good rabbit round very flat shooting out to 150 yards. I've shot a few foxes with it, but except at sub 100 yards, it really isn't a fox round. Also, as it's a rimfire you can't reload it. The 17 Hornet is doing 1100 fps more than the HMR and is faster than the 222, however, the 222 uses heavier bullets. Zeroed at one inch high at 100 yards its spot on at 200 yards. It's still very accurate out to 300 yards but lacking in energy for foxes at that distance.
I really like the 17Hornet and use it in my fox control business a lot, For longer range use on foxes, I still prefer the 223 which is a better all-round foxing calibre.
The 17Hornet is a really enjoyable calibre to use, it's hard on rabbits but is accurate enough to head shoot them with, and for long-range crow/vermin control is enormous fun.
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What range for rabbits for the 17 ??? Head shots or does the wind effect them
When using the 17Hornet on foxes you will get some interestingly different results. Some show no entry wound at all, some have a very destructive entry wound. I've never had an exit wound and the internals are often turned to jelly!
Thank you for that, I will look into that for the future. It’s not really a fox gun I am looking for, more a longer range rabbit / vermin gun. I’m happy with the 17hmr but the reloading of the 17 hornet is appealing too
Flash
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Cheers guys great response
The thing is this
Ive shot well past 200 at fox and dropoed on the the spot with good shot placement
But what i dont understand is people say 150 200 max for the 17 hornet but yet they are willing to shoot other vermin at further distances .
To me this doesn't make sense
Rabiits and crows have a smaller kill zone and does everything you shoot at deserves to be humanly killed by the first shot
So therefore if you wouldnt shoot a fox past 200 why shoot at anything else
Before any keyboard warriors start dont say because its only vermin because where i come from foxes are also classed as vermin
Shot placement for this little deadly calibre is key for l9nger shots
The thing is this
Ive shot well past 200 at fox and dropoed on the the spot with good shot placement
But what i dont understand is people say 150 200 max for the 17 hornet but yet they are willing to shoot other vermin at further distances .
To me this doesn't make sense
Rabiits and crows have a smaller kill zone and does everything you shoot at deserves to be humanly killed by the first shot
So therefore if you wouldnt shoot a fox past 200 why shoot at anything else
Before any keyboard warriors start dont say because its only vermin because where i come from foxes are also classed as vermin
Shot placement for this little deadly calibre is key for l9nger shots
You can't compare a crow with a fox when it comes to actually killing them. if you hit a rabbit or crow with a 17Hornet out to 300 yards you will kill it virtually every time. The same can't be said of a fox, I'm sure we've all hit foxes with much larger calibres than a 17 and see them run off albeit for only a short distance.
With all calibres, you need to use common sense as to what distance you are shooting live targets at. If I'm using a 243for fox I know it will drop it at almost any distance I am confident of shooting at.
The 17Hornet is a very efficient calibre but, like all smaller calibres it has its limitations
With all calibres, you need to use common sense as to what distance you are shooting live targets at. If I'm using a 243for fox I know it will drop it at almost any distance I am confident of shooting at.
The 17Hornet is a very efficient calibre but, like all smaller calibres it has its limitations
Flash
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Yes i agree with that
Ive been reloading for the hornet for 4 years and understand the terminal balistics and energy of this catridge
Ive shot many a fox at over 200 with head shots and sll hsve dropped on the spot .
Seen a guy shoot a Charlie with a 243
Misplaced his shot hit the fox and it ran off never to be seen again
It would of died but how long did it suffer
Yet again shot placement and knowing your equipments and your own limits plays s major part
Flash
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Thats your opinion buddy
Every shooter has different capabilities and limits , obviously if hes not dispatching at 150 he shouldn't be shooting at that range
17 hornet are capable of more than 150 easy with the right conditions
Even with the wrong conditions (wind) if you know your rifle and all the dope for that set up you should have no problems
Cofidence in your tackle and experience.
If your not sure dont take the shot SIMPLE
Have you ever shot his rifle
If you cant dispatch a fox at 150 with it then theres obviously something wrong with his set up
I use nothing but 25gr v max
Buffet wind better and more energy on target
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