.17HMR Winchester ammo - is it working?
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Maybe someone somewhere has taken note?, good to hear your experiences with the new stuff, always was a cracki'n little vermin round when I had one from new.
The deer man
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Mr Gain and Finnbear 270, thanks. It is a cracking little round and a great shame if people don't take note and demand their gun shops supply them what works.
I can only presume no adverse news about this 'NEW' Winchester ammo is good news and just maybe it's possible to turn a corner with the .17HMR and give it back some of the deserved reputation it deserves.
I can only presume no adverse news about this 'NEW' Winchester ammo is good news and just maybe it's possible to turn a corner with the .17HMR and give it back some of the deserved reputation it deserves.
30% of the "New" Winchester 17HMR ammo my mate bought will not chamber in his Anshutz 1417!!
Ian.
Ian.
Maybe the superior quality of the Anschutz is showing a tolerance issue?, here we go again????
I found quite a lot of the 25 Old Winchesters i shot where tight to chamber and close in my 1517
The deer man
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Hello Whitebeard, did I see this post before about the Anshutz 1417 not chambering? With all the adverse ammo issues it's possibly, not surprisingly, just a bit too easy to blame the ammo and not anything else. Is your mate sure it's the new stuff? Below...
He says it is, i was present when he did more testing on saturday, the boxes are definitely different however i cannot swear that they exactly the same as your pic without doing a comparison.
Ian.
The deer man
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You should suggest that everyone who participates in this Winchester ammo study record the LOT numbers of their ammo. 500 rounds fired without difficulty from a single LOT of ammo only proves the quality of that particular LOT. It doesn't speak for the over-all quality of the line.~Muir
The deer man
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A good idea but so far there doesn't appear to be anything conclusive against the new Winchester made ammo. I think if there was there would be a plethora of posts condemning it. So far from our experience in these parts I don't know of anyone having had a misfire/squib round with .17HMR Winchester VARMINT HV.
However if any one has, post the batch number and photo of the box just to be sure of what we are looking at.
ALL ammunition makers can make a bad LOT of ammunition, or a less than perfect LOT, or a LOT that is just mediocre. A couple good LOTs tell you nothing more than the 17HMR stories from shooters of Hornady ammo. Some guys get good LOTs. Some don't and the bad LOTS can be very bad, right? You will need to collect a large amount of data to prove your theory.
And by the way, the proper term is "LOT" not 'batch'. Makers produce ammunition in LOTs, not batches. If you need to contact them, you will come across a little better (more professional) if you use the proper terminology.~Muir
The deer man
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Muir; And by the way said:Muir a 'Lot' in this country is a numbered item in an auction!
In fact the word 'batch' is used in the term 'batch production' which pertains to a manufacturing process in producing 'a lot' of the same items made from different components from a short uninterrupted manufacturing run. e.g. Until the production line is stopped to re-calibrate the powder measure, seating depth etc. Then the process is re-started creating a new batch.
However I'm happy calling it 'batch' or 'lot' - I think we all understand!
The deer man
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Data about the Winchester made .17HMR Winchester VARMINT HV ammo seems a little scarce. The only reported problem turned out to be inconclusive because it was unclear that it was in fact the new ammunition used.
This post has now had 2,112 views less our own. I would expect that if there is a real and persistent problem we might just have seen a few more posts.
I'm slowly drawing to the conclusion that .17HMR Winchester VARMINT HV ammunition is good and if people still find they have a problem with other makes they should change their choice of manufacturer and insist their local gun shop stock what they want - your wallet has good bargaining power!
This post has now had 2,112 views less our own. I would expect that if there is a real and persistent problem we might just have seen a few more posts.
I'm slowly drawing to the conclusion that .17HMR Winchester VARMINT HV ammunition is good and if people still find they have a problem with other makes they should change their choice of manufacturer and insist their local gun shop stock what they want - your wallet has good bargaining power!
Sorry its the English language use it correctly
Batch is for production and Lot is for selling a group of stuff 
any way the ammunition manufactures cant make lots of ammo or there wouldn't be a shortage
"Batch" is what biscuits are made in.Sorry its the English language use it correctly
any way the ammunition manufactures cant make lots of ammo or there wouldn't be a shortage
~Muir
nun_hunter
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the last lo/batch of ammo,I shot was the new Winchester, hornady vmax, Remington and cci TNT. All shot about the same being over an inch group at 100m. All had some split necks and I had two hang fires with the remmingtons. It's this general inconsistency (after getting very good small groups with older Hornady) that is really getting me down about the HMR.
"Batch" is what biscuits are made in.
Mmmmm... fresh biscuits!
I like the sound of that. A lot.
[Sorry! Now I'm cluttering up the thread!]
The deer man
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I still get some, not many, split necks with the Winchester but only after firing. As long as the case has held together until the shot has gone I'm not that concerned what the case is like.
Years ago when still pistol shooting we used a lot of Blaser .38, .357 and I think 9mm ammo because it was cheap. For a reason too as the cases were one use and chuck, there was no way you could reload them but they served a purpose without needing to be the best quality brass on the market - not sure they were even brass.
It would be interesting to know what make your rifle is and how many rounds have been put through it since new. I've put a few thousands through my CZ Varmint and still get sub inch groups at 100 yards, we did it last w/e.
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