I do get where you are coming from, people laud the 6.5CM for its accuracy which they attribute in part to its longer neck as if it’s something new for a 6.5. I guess they’ve never held a creedmoor against a 6.5x55 for comparison!
270 vs 30-06 vs 308
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I do get where you are coming from, people laud the 6.5CM for its accuracy which they attribute in part to its longer neck as if it’s something new for a 6.5. I guess they’ve never held a creedmoor against a 6.5x55 for comparison!
Woodsmoke
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Left to right:
100 grain .270 hollowpoint. This is not a deer bullet.
110 grain .270 V-Max. This is not a deer bullet.
130 grain .270 Softpoint. This is a deer bullet.
Any more questions about my knowledge of, or experience with the .270? If so, let's hear them and I'll educate you further. If not, then kindly point both your attitude and sarcasm in a different direction . . . .
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I’m well aware that there are more options (though nowhere near as many as the 30 Cal’s) if you reload, the OP is shooting factory ammo.
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where are the varmint bullet offerings?
show me the factory offerings available off the shelf in the UK and we’ll take it from there
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Woodsmoke
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You really do have a need to prove your dick is the longest, don't you?
There's the Remington PSP, for a start.
If we may, I'd like to circle back to your comment about safety though? I would suggest (kindly, of course) that if you have concerns about your backstop not being sufficient to contain pass-throughs that you look to your own practices a little deeper.
You really do have a need to prove your dick is the longest, don't you?
There's the Remington PSP, for a start.
If we may, I'd like to circle back to your comment about safety though? I would suggest (kindly, of course) that if you have concerns about your backstop not being sufficient to contain pass-throughs that you look to your own practices a little deeper.
The PSP is core lokt and marketed as a deer bullet?
You obviously missed the ‘belt and braces’ part of the statement!
I found the 75 gr Sierra varmint excellent in the 25-45, 3150 fps was achievable from the necked up .223 case and nudging 1700 ft-lb, accuracy around 1/2 inch not that its used for deer it was for foxing. The 300 or so that I have however, have now been consigned to shooting 3-600 yards at Bisley, why? I found I was getting pass throughs with calibre size exits, even at very close ranges, always into a solid backstop but there was one particular animal at the base of a very steep chalk slope (I shoot a lot of chalk downland that has lots of steep little valleys) animal ran but dropped but the disconcerting 'zing' of the bullet ricocheting off in the distance was unmistakable. Cleary the bullet had passed through the animal, through the short sward vegetation and topsoil and found probably the one hard spot for 50 metres around. I use a very similar banks on the same farm or zeroing everything including FMJ and have never had a ricochet. Even with the best backstop ricochets are possible and do happen, that particular ricochet would not have happened had it been a V-max from the AI or the equivalent 85 gr hollow point from the creedmoor at 3400 fps. I shoot a lot of rounds in the field every month, if you speak to anyone on here that shoots with me if anything I am OTT when it comes to backstop to the point where one of my buddies gets frustrated with me (someone who shoots 100 + deer a year safely in public woodland so he has some experience) so my practices are fine, but thanks for the concern.
The 75 is I would suggest may be designed for 25-06 velocities, had similar pass troughs with 40 gr HP varmageddon from the .22 hornet; these are designed to hold up to 22-250 velocities and resultant spin and the hornet just can't cause the thicker jacket to break up.
A suitable fragmenting bullet gives you an ADDITIONAL layer of safety to a 'safe' backstop is that really difficult to understand?
Again as someone who doesn't shoot a lot of foxes i can understand your confusion on the matter I guess - not sure why you have all those varmint bullets though!!
Edit: PS its probably below average but I have 2 kids so its done its job
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That’s ok, maybe have a look if you decide to broaden your horizons beyond shooting deer with a .270I didn't even bother to read any of thatFar too bored
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RoyalRedStag
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308 has the best barrel life and a wide range of different gain bullets available for it
The three are marginally different. All will do all the jobs.
308 is the most common by far. 308 ammo available,is the most varied by far (Hornady TAP gives you your varminting round)
More 308 rifles, more 308 ammo.
I would see what rifles i fancied and buy based on that rather
If you look at what the shops hold in new guns there are an awful lot of 308s.
308 is the most common by far. 308 ammo available,is the most varied by far (Hornady TAP gives you your varminting round)
More 308 rifles, more 308 ammo.
I would see what rifles i fancied and buy based on that rather
If you look at what the shops hold in new guns there are an awful lot of 308s.
mikbaile34
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I use a T3 stainless steel.270 it’s one hell of a round flat and fast
alberta boy
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Wow , a necro thread lol . They're all great cartridges and I'd be hard pressed to choose between them ............. except I have several thousand rounds of 30/06 and 308 , so I guess I did . That being said , I've seen a lot of game , from Moose to Coyotes , cleanly taken with a 270 and an appropriate bullet . I've used all three on the same range of animals with great results , use any of them with confidence . If there's a problem, it's you or your rifle , not the cartridge .
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exmarksman9870
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I have all 3...if had to keep just 1 it would be .270 all day long
Koenig
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This thread will go on and on….because calibre selection is a very personal thing. Any of the three will do the job required, however:
.308w is / has:
more than adequate for any UK quarry.
Mild recoil.
Long barrel life.
Super easy to get ammo for (and cheap).
Short actioned.
Handles Copper / NLA well.
Capable of longer range accuracy with lighter rounds. But will also happily shoot the heavier bullets (I sometimes go up to 180g).
Sometimes called the ‘lazy’ choice for the UK Hunter…but popular for several reasons very good reasons.
Yes, I do own and shoot .308w for full disclosure, but the facts speak for themselves in my opinion.
Not discounting.3006 or .270 in anyway, just stating which calibre does it all to a more than acceptable standard.
.308w is / has:
more than adequate for any UK quarry.
Mild recoil.
Long barrel life.
Super easy to get ammo for (and cheap).
Short actioned.
Handles Copper / NLA well.
Capable of longer range accuracy with lighter rounds. But will also happily shoot the heavier bullets (I sometimes go up to 180g).
Sometimes called the ‘lazy’ choice for the UK Hunter…but popular for several reasons very good reasons.
Yes, I do own and shoot .308w for full disclosure, but the facts speak for themselves in my opinion.
Not discounting.3006 or .270 in anyway, just stating which calibre does it all to a more than acceptable standard.
Every thread end up in a cock on the table moment. Like a football match, 15000 managers in the crowd who could do a better job. A lot of overly sensitive, 'trainspotting ' nerds' loosing it over the minutiae. Yeah I know, old thread, still funny.Obviously I am biased. Do you buy a Mini, a Mini Cooper, or a Mini Cooper S. All three will perform well, but just sometimes having a little bit more available is good. I love the 30-06. I have shot a 300 yard crow with it, and I have shot a 320 yard Wildebeest with it. I have shot it out to 1000 yards on the sniper range at Lydd. As I said, I am biased.
big ears
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Thomas Gordon
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Ive owned all three calibres mentioned above, all great rounds. Makes me so happy not to see a needmore on the list!
For a good all rounder you're going to struggle to beat the .270 out the 3, will shoot anything in the UK with it from foxes to munty to reds and wild boar, bullet availability particularly copper, flat shooting, hard hitting when it comes to sika in particular.
Liked my 30-06 but even with a mod still get a fair bit of recoil, pricey ammo compared to the 308.
308 absolutely nothing wrong with it but never wowed me, started off on very cheap hornady copper bullets at £26 a box was its biggest seller for me but no longer the case it faded out on me. Good for woodland stalking with a heavy bullet.
.270 vote for me
For a good all rounder you're going to struggle to beat the .270 out the 3, will shoot anything in the UK with it from foxes to munty to reds and wild boar, bullet availability particularly copper, flat shooting, hard hitting when it comes to sika in particular.
Liked my 30-06 but even with a mod still get a fair bit of recoil, pricey ammo compared to the 308.
308 absolutely nothing wrong with it but never wowed me, started off on very cheap hornady copper bullets at £26 a box was its biggest seller for me but no longer the case it faded out on me. Good for woodland stalking with a heavy bullet.
.270 vote for me
merlin
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I have a .308
My son has a .270
My mate has a 30-06
All 3 of us were out after reds. We all shot reds. All the reds fell over.
And we have all shot other species of deer with our respective rifles.
(....point being that unless you have a particular preference, all 3 work)
Buy the one you want would be my advice
My son has a .270
My mate has a 30-06
All 3 of us were out after reds. We all shot reds. All the reds fell over.
And we have all shot other species of deer with our respective rifles.
(....point being that unless you have a particular preference, all 3 work)
Buy the one you want would be my advice
Norfolk Deer Search
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Amen
I’ve had 270 killed a lot of deer that Ruger!
30-06 cursed had the wrong person build it
7x57 grandfather of them all
I’ve chased the perfect calibre now I’ve finally got there with the 7x57.
308- wouldn’t touch one with next doors manky broom handle!
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