30-30 lever action

David78b

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Hello I’ve just watched brobee223 on you tube shooting elk with a 30-30. Does anyone use 30-30 if so what for and what rifle.
 
Hello I’ve just watched brobee223 on you tube shooting elk with a 30-30. Does anyone use 30-30 if so what for and what rifle.
Brobee actually lives a little south of me , the man is good with a lever rifle . I've used a 30-30 on mostly medium sized game like White-Tail and Mule Deer , along with a few Black Bears . Inside of its practical range , which , for me anyway , is about 150 yards with standard cup and core bullets , it will reliably kill any of the above . The newer designed bullets , like the Hornady Leverevolution Flex Tips , allow you to stretch that out to 200 yards easily . The only limiting factor is your type of sights , not the rifle or the cartridge . If you plan on hunting in low light conditions , such as heavily forested areas , a good low power variable is perfect . I've used aperture sights a lot over the years but my eyes aren't what they used to be , especially in low light conditions . I've owned Winchester 94s , Marlin 36 and 336s , Savage 99s , and a few other oddball rifles . Out of the levers , I prefer the Marlin , mostly because they're simple to mount a scope on and allow easy bolt removal so you can clean the bore from the breach end . The Savage 99 in 30-30 is a great little rifle , but I doubt that there's many of those kicking around in the UK . My current , and favourite , 30-30 , is a Savage 219 single shot . It weighs nothing , points like your finger and will keep three of anything inside of 1 1/4 inches at 100 yards . It won't impress your friends , but it just does the job without any fuss .

AB
 
Most 30-30s are lever actions, although they have been built in single shots, doubles and bolt guns. They are a favourite in the US, but in the UK there is a much more limited following.

30 years ago, deer stalking was much more limited, and whilst there was some stalking in Southern England, majority of stalking was open ground in Scotland and this heavily dictated choice of rifles. And given the restrictions on rifle ownership most ended up with 243, 270 or 308 Stalking rifles. Whilst you can get faster ammo, most factory loads were below the Scottish min of 2450 fps mv.

Now that there are lots of Deer in England, deer stalking is much more mainstream, and there is an understanding that most stalkers can justify having more than one rifle a nice light 30-30 makes a very nice walk about and woodland type rifle that is capable of taking any deer up to about 150 to 200 yards.

Even up here in Scotland with Lever-evolution ammo or loading normal spitzer type bullets to 2500 or so fps it would be great little rifle to use. (With normal spitzer type bullets just load one in chamber and one in the magazine).

Would I have one - yes perhaps. But I have a lightweight combination gun, and my favourite homeload was a 7mm 140gn bullet at c2600 fps - pretty much 30-30 sort of ballistics (30-30 slightly bigger bullet a bit slower).
 
30-30 is very versatile.

Here is a friend shooting a backwards bullet on 16gn of a2400 @ 300 yards from a post 64 Winchester 94. Pure guessing the hold.

We both made hits and were very close, I certainly would not want to be down there poking my azz in the air!
 
Savage Model 340 shoots well, though proprietary scope mounts are difficult to find now - integral mount is screwed to the left side of the receiver. Still a nice light bolt action rifle in 30-30 and very useful for woodland stalking.
 
Thought of one a few times , though there are many reasons against one and only a few for it Light , easy to carry and fast . If i had a target shooting specific use to add i think i might take the plunge but i do not . I fear it might gather dust
 
Savage Model 340 shoots well, though proprietary scope mounts are difficult to find now - integral mount is screwed to the left side of the receiver. Still a nice light bolt action rifle in 30-30 and very useful for woodland stalking.
There's an outfit just north west of me , CPR , that makes a picatinny side mount for the 340 . He even has a number of models as , over the years , there were some differences in screw spacing . They're not cheap , about $160 CDN , but they work really well . There are a lot of 340s kicking around out here . I've had a few of them , including one in 22 Hornet . Nothing fancy , but they do the job .

AB
 
Would you know who could do such a job and for roughly how much? I'm intrigued by the idea!
I would have to ask him later ref the smith in north Germany that he went to talk about it but the quote was to be roughly in the region of 3,000 Euros with Suhler claw scope mounts for an older in keeping black gloss in almost new condition Zeiss scope he has which runs around 1,200 Euros to do.
The plan was to have both barrels brazed into the old stubs like with new tubes on a s/s the left barrel to be the fixed one and the right barrel to be free floating up to the muzzle where a block solidly connected to the left barrel with a larger than barrel diameter hole through it so that this barrel can be adjusted to the same point as the left.
 
There's an outfit just north west of me , CPR , that makes a picatinny side mount for the 340 . He even has a number of models as , over the years , there were some differences in screw spacing . They're not cheap , about $160 CDN , but they work really well . There are a lot of 340s kicking around out here . I've had a few of them , including one in 22 Hornet . Nothing fancy , but they do the job .

AB
I bought a copy of the original mount from a chap on eBay a while back. Works well. The little gun is like the 219 single shot - also 30/30 - a nice light woods rifle. Nothing fancy as you say, but effective. I love all the old Savage offerings for precisely that reason.
 
I have a Marlin 336 with a red dot on it, absolutely love it for the woods and bordering fields. Great for a quick shot and if a bit more stability is needed there are plenty of trees, logs and fenceposts around. Great fun for a bit of plinking, 30 -30 was also my introduction to reloading as well!
 
I bought a copy of the original mount from a chap on eBay a while back. Works well. The little gun is like the 219 single shot - also 30/30 - a nice light woods rifle. Nothing fancy as you say, but effective. I love all the old Savage offerings for precisely that reason.
The late father of one of my oldest friends used one in Northern Saskatchewan for over 40 years . There was no blueing left , the stock looked like a fence post and I doubt it was cleaned much , but when the old man shot , something died . He trapped for a living and that rifle spent more time outside than in , but it never missed a beat . His son still takes it out every now and then and , not surprisingly , it still works .

AB
 
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