Strange Hornady only load their factory ammo to 1300-1400ft/lbs then.
.300 blackout or something different as a handy farm rifle.
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Military looking semiautos are ok for hunting the rules changed in 2022, sound moderators doesn`t need a separate licence to now. Sorry to hear wildboar are moved the Finnish whitetail class would be perfect for medium game in Sweden too.
Which ties in with the manual data I posted above
palmer_mike
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palmer_mike
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Yes, as I’d previously understood. Not seen any large deer legal loads for it yet?
I thought legal minimums still applied for deer culled on deer farms?
Or am I thinking park deer and farms are different?
Because there aren’t any…
If you want all UK deer legal from a .223 case, get a 25-45 Sharps
UpNorthMI
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I shoot a Ruger American bolt action 300 blackout rifle, it is a short inexpensive gun that handles a wide range of bullet weights from 100 - 200 gn. I’ve tried subsonic ammo but remain concerned about a suitable back stop with those big heavy bullets if you were using it in an area with homes or other farm animals.
It’s a fun caliber but I don’t seriously consider it for deer as ballistics are marginal. I know that calling it marginal is very subjective but having shot a number of woodland whitetail deer in the US with mine, it would never be my first choice for Red, fallow or sika deer. For small deer in the UK it would work well. There are many marginal calibers like 30-30 which remain very popular and kill a tremendous number of deer each year!
As others have already stated light bullets in .223 or .243 options are great for vermin / foxes and much safer. When you already have .243 and .308, both of which are quite versatile it’s hard to find another caliber which is going to do something better.
.300 blackout ammo for general use can be quite a bit cheaper and if you reload, it can give you a ton of options. If you feel it may be a useful or versatile rifle buy one and give it a try. Life's short you should buy all of the calibers and try them if you have the funds!
If you just want to add another calibre for deer type use I would consider 7 x 57 which is one of my favorites.
It’s a fun caliber but I don’t seriously consider it for deer as ballistics are marginal. I know that calling it marginal is very subjective but having shot a number of woodland whitetail deer in the US with mine, it would never be my first choice for Red, fallow or sika deer. For small deer in the UK it would work well. There are many marginal calibers like 30-30 which remain very popular and kill a tremendous number of deer each year!
As others have already stated light bullets in .223 or .243 options are great for vermin / foxes and much safer. When you already have .243 and .308, both of which are quite versatile it’s hard to find another caliber which is going to do something better.
.300 blackout ammo for general use can be quite a bit cheaper and if you reload, it can give you a ton of options. If you feel it may be a useful or versatile rifle buy one and give it a try. Life's short you should buy all of the calibers and try them if you have the funds!
If you just want to add another calibre for deer type use I would consider 7 x 57 which is one of my favorites.
tim@tcs
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The almost perfect calibre which is fine with me
I’m going to refurbish an old British rifle in this wonderful cartridge this year
No not all UK deer legal.
Hodgdon has a published load for 115gr Berger at 2486fps 1578ft/lbs 16" barrel.
Smellydog
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Has anyone ever been prosecuted for using the wrong calibre?
I once heard a tale of an old chap that use to bump roe off from his car on the Mallaig road with a 22!
Until that is he shot himself in the foot one night and needed help.
Apparently the police simply told him to stop doing it or else!
I once heard a tale of an old chap that use to bump roe off from his car on the Mallaig road with a 22!
Until that is he shot himself in the foot one night and needed help.
Apparently the police simply told him to stop doing it or else!
I know of a couple of folks that have dropped roe's with a .22! I prefer something with alot more oomph.
Beginning to think a .300 blackout is a bit underpowered for what I want. Been thinking of getting another .308 and some .308 subsonics for when I need to be quiet. However, like I've read above, life's short so it would be nice to try a 7x57 or a 6.5x55 for a while
Beginning to think a .300 blackout is a bit underpowered for what I want. Been thinking of getting another .308 and some .308 subsonics for when I need to be quiet. However, like I've read above, life's short so it would be nice to try a 7x57 or a 6.5x55 for a while
tim@tcs
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One of the drivers behind me becoming an rfd was the faf with variations as the move to a five year certificate meant I couldn’t wait! Trade rate prices may have helped a bit but it was being able to take anything I wanted out to test that really swung it for me!However, like I've read above, life's short so it would be nice to try a 7x57 or a 6.5x55 for a while
Aye, one of the downsides of firearm buying is you can't take it home for a try like you can with farm machinery to see if it'll work out before you buy it..
Smellydog
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Or shotguns. I always try a shotgun before I buy.
jthyttin
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If you only need subs occasionally, there are reduced capacity brass and also chamber adapters (for using pistol ammo). I don't know what the legalities are in UK.
If you don't shoot over 50m or so, I'd just use regular 308 cases.
At least Samereier (Germany) makes the reduced brass, it does provide better internal ballistics but is a bit of faff since needs special die etc.
I tested Lothar-Walther chamber adapter (for a RFD friend) in the past, it enabled using 32 ACP / 7.65 Browning in 308. It's kind of novelty, since accuracy is no better than 308 subs. Also most factory ammo is FMJ so you'd have to reload. Better for occasional despatch, or gallery shooting. Also turns a bolt action effectively to single shot.
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