50g ttsx in a 222?
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you may be lucky
in my experience they are velocity fussy when so close to the twist limit
same with 60gr Soft Point Hornady
We do a tipless 50gr Fox Classic that is designed for the 1:14"
No issues
in my experience they are velocity fussy when so close to the twist limit
same with 60gr Soft Point Hornady
We do a tipless 50gr Fox Classic that is designed for the 1:14"
No issues
Heym SR20
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Yes, velocity ladder done, not done group yet, so thanks for the reminder!
I tried it, and the grouping was poor, verging on totally erratic.
I have rebarrelled my .222 to 1:12, so may re-do the exercise, but suspect that @Edinburgh Rifles Fox bullets are a far better bet.
I have rebarrelled my .222 to 1:12, so may re-do the exercise, but suspect that @Edinburgh Rifles Fox bullets are a far better bet.
kenbro
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Pull the tips out and you'll be fine
Wot Rory said!
Overlapping hole groups.
At least when I was shooting well.
The most accurate load I’ve shot in a .222
The reason I ask is that I knocked a good load up with these in my 22/250, they shoot great, both with and without tips. No less meat damage than using lead though, which was the point of trying them.
Was just wondering if things would be better doing 500fps less? 222 speeds.
cjs
Was just wondering if things would be better doing 500fps less? 222 speeds.
cjs
Yup.
Have a load that achieves a velocity for the minimum legal requirements for Munty through my T3...... Tips pulled produced groups of .7 inch. Not particularly impressive for a .222..... but still Minute of Munty, using a mk1 Alpex.
Most accurate load achieved .3 of an inch, but was shy of the magic 1000 ft lbs.
Been up to Scotland with it for Roe too.
Have a load that achieves a velocity for the minimum legal requirements for Munty through my T3...... Tips pulled produced groups of .7 inch. Not particularly impressive for a .222..... but still Minute of Munty, using a mk1 Alpex.
Most accurate load achieved .3 of an inch, but was shy of the magic 1000 ft lbs.
Been up to Scotland with it for Roe too.
kenbro
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I have a friend who tried to convince me that you shouldn’t pull tips because it lets the powder out…
Been trying to access your website, Ed, looks like you're getting some work done, and it's unavailable.
I've been trying to source some Sierra 50gr, number 1320, as my 222 loves them and they're a tad harder and less explosive than the Blitz.
Do you have any? Only interested in that bullet, thanks. I've tried the 1330 and 1340.
cjs
BSAMarty
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The 222 was designed for 50 grain bullets. Pretty much any bullet in the 50-55 grain range should shoot very well.
What does the "magic 1000 ft-lbs" refer to? Is that a energy requirement at the muzzle for hunting?
If so, a 50 grain bullet leaving at 3000 ft/s will get you there.
What does the "magic 1000 ft-lbs" refer to? Is that a energy requirement at the muzzle for hunting?
If so, a 50 grain bullet leaving at 3000 ft/s will get you there.
Yup.
Requirements in England and Wales under the 1991 Deer Act for use on 2 species of non native deer - Muntjac and Chinese Water Deer (CWD).
Minimum calibre: .220 inches
Minimum bullet weight: 50 grains
Minimum muzzle energy: 1,000 ft-lbs
The projectile must be designed to expand on impact.
wildfowler.250
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I get this is a length issue with the bullet but surely the manufacturers would produce a tipless / different nosed bullet from factory if that was deemed best? If the tip has no effect, why bother making it?
From someone who’s still in the gameking world but weighing up switching across.
The tip does have a purpose - it improves the BC. The tip does nothing for expansion, even hinders it.
It's really not hard to pull the tips out to suit the 1:14" barrels though.
The 222 and it's 1:14" twist was designed way before long plastic tipped copper bullets were around. I think our unique needs for our small UK market are not of any real concern for manufacturers.
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