6.5 creed for Sika? (🪖💣)

[Twodogs]

You have chosen your rifle Sauer 100, it's only available in Creedmore in 6.5, you have answered your own question.

And 6.5 PRC.

 

[Rutland lad]

Please for give me for not having read the whole post, my comment may be redundant. I have both and they shoot 130 / 140 gr lead very well. You may wish to future proof your purchase and think about lead free projectiles. Don't buy any of the Blaser group brands, mauser etc. as the have slow twist rates in either caliber 1:8.666 which Beverly limits the weight of copper bullet that can be stabilised in my experience. Both are R8's and do not shoot copper 120 gr and up near as well as they do lead, smaller is good.
The 6.5x55 has the advantage of flexibility if you load your own. A little better case capacity and more flexibility when it comes to seating depth and magazine load length if you do not load maybe the CM as the choice can be better and some brands of 6.5x55 are loaded very weakly. A 1:8 twist 6.5x55 would be my first choice given the intention to shoot copper bullets but their won't be much in it. good luck and enjoy

You say avoid the Mauser/ Blaser weapons. I have a Mauser MO3 in 6.5x55 and it has a 1/8.7” twist and a 21” barrel. I must be honest and say it’s done very well so far. Shot sika too.

 

[webley701]

Please for give me for not having read the whole post, my comment may be redundant. I have both and they shoot 130 / 140 gr lead very well. You may wish to future proof your purchase and think about lead free projectiles. Don't buy any of the Blaser group brands, mauser etc. as the have slow twist rates in either caliber 1:8.666 which Beverly limits the weight of copper bullet that can be stabilised in my experience. Both are R8's and do not shoot copper 120 gr and up near as well as they do lead, smaller is good.
The 6.5x55 has the advantage of flexibility if you load your own. A little better case capacity and more flexibility when it comes to seating depth and magazine load length if you do not load maybe the CM as the choice can be better and some brands of 6.5x55 are loaded very weakly. A 1:8 twist 6.5x55 would be my first choice given the intention to shoot copper bullets but their won't be much in it. good luck and enjoy

I haven’t found any issues using various copper bullets in an 1:8.66 twist - quite the reverse if anything.

 

[Siggy]

I shoot sika with a Creedmoor. Factory 20” barrel. I started with factory 143gr ammo. This gave quite a slow muzzle velocity (2550 fps). Most of the time, that was fine, but occasionally I felt it lacked punch, and had a few runners in restock that I didn’t enjoy searching for. I was careful not to stretch the distance - kept mostly under 150m. Though shot some bigger animals at 250 or so.

Ultimately, I wasn’t entirely confident shooting sika with that combination, so I got a 6.5 PRC, which shoots at 2950fps. That is extremely effective, and flattens things out past further than I’m comfortable shooting.

I’ve now been able to reload my Creedmoor, and got it to 2760fps. Haven’t shot anything with that yet, but will be more confident shooting larger animals a bit further out.

Ultimately, it doesn’t really matter which 6.5 you get, provided you have sensible expectations based on the ballistics you get from your particular set up. I don’t really understand why people get emotional about it - it really is arguing about favourite flavours of ice cream.

Great answer with real world experience- except now I want to get a 6.5 prc again- an itch I was hoping I had put to bed for a while.

I’m just going to go away now and repeat to my self “I love my 6.5x55, I love my 6.5x55, I love my 6.5x55,…”

 

[Mungo]

Great answer with real world experience- except now I want to get a 6.5 prc again- an itch I was hoping I had put to bed for a while.

I’m just going to go away now and repeat to my self “I love my 6.5x55, I love my 6.5x55, I love my 6.5x55,…”

6.5PRC is great.

No reason not to have both.

 

[dpaterson]

I have seen and really liked a Bergara extreme hunter in 6.5 creed with a 18" barrel but was a bit sceptical of the short barrels, excellent to know this now tho as it is mostly woodland I shoot, cheers for the reply man

I have a 6.5cm with a 19” barrel, previously 22”, using 120gr ammo - I haven’t noticed any difference in impact or stopping power and no complaints in loss of velocity from the deer!

 

[308 sako]

I shoot more Sika than most and recently I have turned more to my 6.5 Creedmoor to get the job done here is my reasons why.

1. Very low recoil, target acquisition and follow up time is far quicker.
2. Bullet size, 140 and 142gr bullets .
3. 1:8 twist rate makes the rifle cal more accurate and dependable.
4. High bc bullets allow for more long range oppertunities
5. Accurate as hell and not fussy on ammo.

Why would I not have a swede?

The swede is fussy on ammo, outdated in many ways has common accuracy issues and well you might as well use a .270 as that is a far better calibration than the Swede

That’s just my opinion

Are you still using the Creedmoor for sika? If so how are you finding it and what bullets are you using? I put in a variation for a 6.5prc but due to ammo availability I’m thinking of changing to the 6.5 Creedmoor

 

[Stephenbuck2489]

I have seen and really liked a Bergara extreme hunter in 6.5 creed with a 18" barrel but was a bit sceptical of the short barrels, excellent to know this now tho as it is mostly woodland I shoot, cheers for the reply man

Ever looked at the Benelli lupo?
i was originally set on the Begara in 6.5 until i put the short barreled Benelli in my hands!
the 5 stack flush fit Mag is a bonus with the the Benelli, but the real winner is the gaurentees they are dishing out!! 10 years on the working parts, and 25 years on the coating if you buy the BeSt model. and the prices aren't eye watering for brand new!

 

[Mungo]

Are you still using the Creedmoor for sika? If so how are you finding it and what bullets are you using? I put in a variation for a 6.5prc but due to ammo availability I’m thinking of changing to the 6.5 Creedmoor

Creedmoor kills sika just like any other 6.5.

It’s just very important to know for sure what speed your particular set up is getting.

If you’re using factory ammo with a 20” barrel and heavy bullets, they will be slow - often 2500 or less. So before shooting anything, chrono the load you’re going to be using and adjust expectations accordingly.

If you’re going to be shooting non lead (as we all will be shortly), you’ll need to make sure it’s going as fast as possible.

 

[Stephenbuck2489]

Ever looked at the Benelli lupo?
i was originally set on the Begara in 6.5 until i put the short barreled Benelli in my hands!
the 5 stack flush fit Mag is a bonus with the the Benelli, but the real winner is the gaurentees they are dishing out!! 10 years on the working parts, and 25 years on the coating if you buy the BeSt model. and the prices aren't eye watering for brand new!

sorry, just noticed this post was from 2023

 

[Dave_45]

Creedmoor kills sika just like any other 6.5.

It’s just very important to know for sure what speed your particular set up is getting.

If you’re using factory ammo with a 20” barrel and heavy bullets, they will be slow - often 2500 or less. So before shooting anything, chrono the load you’re going to be using and adjust expectations accordingly.

If you’re going to be shooting non lead (as we all will be shortly), you’ll need to make sure it’s going as fast as possible.

I used one for sika and it was fine with lead, non lead was another matter

It lacked the legs for me

 

[Mungo]

I used one for sika and it was fine with lead, non lead was another matter

It lacked the legs for me

What did you switch to?

 

[Dave_45]

What did you switch to?

I went 6.5 284 (will Rebarrel to prc in time )

270 in the works most likely a factory job

 

[Mungo]

I went 6.5 284 (will Rebarrel to prc in time )

270 in the works most likely a factory job

I use a PRC for sika most of the time, but my night shooting gun (with the thermal scope) is a Creedmoor. Works absolutely fine with lead, but I keep the shots to 200m at most.

Very uncertain about what to do when I have to move away from lead.

 

[Bowland blades]

I suspect everything you shoot is 'Giant' and bigger and better than the average person!

Well its the fact that i live among big Sika , even have them on my garden though I would only ever shoot when its required . regards your remarks yes i do shoot bigger and better Sika because of where i am located in a fantastic place

 

[Bowland blades]

So to all the lads that shoot .308 what is the best all round factory bullet?

.308 down to 243 win Work just fine , I like Barnes copper but my biggest sika was shot with a .243 win cup and core lead bullet

 

[Dave_45]

What scopen

I use a PRC for sika most of the time, but my night shooting gun (with the thermal scope) is a Creedmoor. Works absolutely fine with lead, but I keep the shots to 200m at most.

Very uncertain about what to do when I have to move away from lead.

I use a PRC for sika most of the time, but my night shooting gun (with the thermal scope) is a Creedmoor. Works absolutely fine with lead, but I keep the shots to 200m at most.

Very uncertain about what to do when I have to move away from lead.

Two prc!

What thermal do you use ?

I’m very interested in multi spectral , hik and maybe the falcon titan

 

[Mungo]

What scopen



Two prc!

What thermal do you use ?

I’m very interested in multi spectral , hik and maybe the falcon titan

Stellar.

Very happy with it - does exactly what I need it to.

A few things take a bit of getting used to. It is tricky to judge body angle. And you have to be very aware of what might be in front of the target.

 

[Edinburgh Rifles]

I shoot Sika with among other things.. a 6.5 Grendel
Stick it in the right place and they dont like it
Keep the range sensible and match point of impact to bullet construction

 

[Dave_45]

Stellar.

Very happy with it - does exactly what I need it to.

A few things take a bit of getting used to. It is tricky to judge body angle. And you have to be very aware of what might be in front of the target.

This is why I think multi spectral will eventually be the best choice , thermal to rapidly locate and NV to check for unseen obstacles