6mm flobert anyone?
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The paper tube is intended to fly down the barrel and hold the shot charge together as a sort of cup wad. That's why when you pick up fired such (and the same way made paper case 9mm Rimfire shotshells) that you never see the paper case with the head intact. It's not that the paper has rotted from the head it's that it detached itself the time that the cartridge was fired.
Can you imagine the sport to be had with those, a suitable gun, and a barn with a rat problem ? 
For use by the fairer sex in salon shootouts?
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I've not heard that before: I can't imagine how it would ever 'let go' of the shot?
Smellydog
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Maybe it's not supposed to but not penetrate the garden shed etc.
I wonder if they do a lead free for ducks.....
Paper rimfire shot shells; 5mm - 9mm variation question
Bob The point both Will and I were trying to say is that their is no hard and fast measurement due to lack of standardization for a long period of the manufacture of these by various makers. So if is close to 5mm plus/minus it’s probably 5mm if it’s close to 6mm plus/minus t’s probably 6mm...
forum.cartridgecollectors.org
In the link below the writer says: "These tended to be both expensive and unreliable: the paper case would often detach from the brass cap and disappear down the bore after the shot, leaving only the brass cap in the breech!" Which is (as I was told by those that were young men when these things were commonplace) likely because that's what they were meant to do!
There's a comment about these paper cases behaving as such on a Pigeonwatch thread, by another member, not by me I wasn't a member back then, on this: "The Fiochii cartridges were a great advance on the Eley paper cases where the paper from the case discharged through the barrel and you only ejected the copper head. Pretty dangerous among straw or hay would be a tube of smoldering cartridge paper."
9mm (No. 3) Bore - SmallBoreShotguns.com
Nice article in the 1972 edition of Guns Review:
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Shot my first deer with one, emptied out shot, cut case down to half. Filled it with powder from an extra two cartridges and cast a lead ball. Highly dangerous but it worked. Caught by the Earl's keeper, never charged, but black and blue from the belting my keeper Grandad gave me. I had shamed him as the keeper who caught me was his pal. Apparently he had watched me and couldn't believe I would shoot it in the park. I was 13 at the time.
Oh you are a bad man lol.Shot my first deer with one, emptied out shot, cut case down to half. Filled it with powder from an extra two cartridges and cast a lead ball. Highly dangerous but it worked. Caught by the Earl's keeper, never charged, but black and blue from the belting my keeper Grandad gave me. I had shamed him as the keeper who caught me was his pal. Apparently he had watched me and couldn't believe I would shoot it in the park. I was 13 at the time.
hybridfiat
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My Grandad was a poacher and poached to order.Shot my first deer with one, emptied out shot, cut case down to half. Filled it with powder from an extra two cartridges and cast a lead ball. Highly dangerous but it worked. Caught by the Earl's keeper, never charged, but black and blue from the belting my keeper Grandad gave me. I had shamed him as the keeper who caught me was his pal. Apparently he had watched me and couldn't believe I would shoot it in the park. I was 13 at the time.
He would have clapped me on the back and told me how not to get caught next time.
He was in the Royal Artillery based in Norwich for a time and poached on land owned by Lord Louis Mountbatten.
He used to reminisce saying: "We ad some luvlie meals courtesy of Lord Mountbatten we did".
kenbro
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The shot might fall out before you loaded them?
Ken.
Ah - I think I meant that they could seal the end in a less-complicated way, if it were not intended to let the shot out on firing.
Smellydog
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My dad had a v4 zephyr.
We were in Belgium and I was about 7.
I asked dad how fast it would go?
I heard the carb open up and watched from the back the speedo creeping up and up. Around 90 the engine threw a rod! Piece of junk
From old ammo to Ford Zephyr throwing a rod in Belgium : Just love the meandering of some threads on SD, one of life’s simple pleasures .
DesG
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Aah the Holistic view of life and everything!
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