A rant about coarse fishing and river woes

[bobo]

Agreed but what about game fish? I guess you mean coarse fish- can’t think why you’d want to eat coarse fish but I remember seeing rows of coarse fish for sale in Birmingham markets - the Bullring. I have eaten perch in Ireland - too many bones, so I’m a sea angler for food. My coarse fishing days are probably behind me for all the reasons you state

There are no bones in a correctly filleted perch fillet.

When I eat fish like bream or redeye I mince the meat and mix it with spice and egg, to form fillet-like chops, they taste really good, and no bones can be felt when using a 3mm hole plate in the mincer.
There are not many Danes eating the fish, so almost no one catches them, only the eastern Europeans, and they can’t catch enough.

You have to realize, here the freshwater management catch large amounts of fresh water coarse fish to remove them, we simply have way too many.
Typical 200-400kg pr hectar water is removed, that comes to many tons in the larger lakes.

The fish are then used for biomass to produce gas in bioreactors. (what a waste )

 

[sauer]

Aye mackerel season brings out the neds and find the rocks blooteted in rubbish and tackle more than usual...even worse a pile of dead fish left on the rocks ......why. ???....wtf?!

Paul

 

[Flash G 74]

There are no bones in a correctly filleted perch fillet.

When I eat fish like bream or redeye I mince the meat and mix it with spice and egg, to form fillet-like chops, they taste really good, and no bones can be felt when using a 3mm hole plate in the mincer.
There are not many Danes eating the fish, so almost no one catches them, only the eastern Europeans, and they can’t catch enough.

You have to realize, here the freshwater management catch large amounts of fresh water coarse fish to remove them, we simply have way too many.
Typical 200-400kg pr hectar water is removed, that comes to many tons in the larger lakes.

The fish are then used for biomass to produce gas in bioreactors. (what a waste )

Hello, Lucky to find any fish in our rivers these days what with pollution and poaching or the RSPCA letting a seal go up river from the sea

 

[shakey jake]

As the polluted rivers flow into the sea, are sea fish actually any cleaner?
Im sure the bass i caught lass week where healthy and 30 miles off sure but i bet they started life as a schooly dodging turds

 

[Klenchblaize]

Happier days:

K

 

[mudman]

Rivers are in many ways much cleaner than they ever have been. But many are full of agricultural run off, leading to a massive overgrowth of aquatic vegetation

 

[nun_hunter]

Rivers are in many ways much cleaner than they ever have been. But many are full of agricultural run off, leading to a massive overgrowth of aquatic vegetation

There is a big campaign at the moment for the river Wye due to an excess of chicken manure washing into the river causing exactly that.

I believe the issue is that the run off isn't classed as a waste product that needs treating so commercial chicken farms don't do anything to stop it from happening.

 

[hw101]

Rivers are in many ways much cleaner than they ever have been. But many are full of agricultural run off, leading to a massive overgrowth of aquatic vegetation

I think 30years ago the rivers were cleaner than they had been for 200 years. But the population spoke and lack of investment in infrastructure has seen things deteriorate.
Thames water has been particularly culpable. RW sewage floating down the Thames, Windrush - even the chalk streams like the Test. Southern Trent and Yorkshire water also guilty. Government intervention and strict regulation with punitive fines required.

 

[Flash G 74]

I think 30years ago the rivers were cleaner than they had been for 200 years. But the population spoke and lack of investment in infrastructure has seen things deteriorate.
Thames water has been particularly culpable. RW sewage floating down the Thames, Windrush - even the chalk streams like the Test. Southern Trent and Yorkshire water also guilty. Government intervention and strict regulation with punitive fines required.

Hello, Use to like fishing the Windrush , Now it must be polluted from the Witney Sewage Plant out flow down to the Thames at the Rose Revive Pub, Above to Burford would still be fishable , My best Trout was a 4 llb Brown on a Black Gnat

 

[Bowland blades]

Never understood fishing , catch and release?

Imagine shooting to release

If anglers did not release anything , there would be no wild fish in our lakes , rivers and the Sea . Of course Stalkers do a sort of catch and release , as we select those ready for shooting and those we just watch or photograph . Some Nations have banned catch and release Germany had some whacky riles on this once over .

 

[hw101]

Hello, Use to like fishing the Windrush , Now it must be polluted from the Witney Sewage Plant out flow down to the Thames at the Rose Revive Pub, Above to Burford would still be fishable , My best Trout was a 4 llb Brown on a Black Gnat

Used to catch barbel on the windrush. The river looks a shadow of its former self - the Thames regular has raw sewage in it as well. Completely unacceptable.
Up here in Scotland things seem better at present. The fly life on the Clyde remains excellent and the insect diversity from kick samples shows (at least above Lanark) that the water is very clean. No so on the above mentioned southern rivers!
Regarding catch and release - a big wild fish is too valuable to kill. When I first fished the Clyde (27 years ago) most trout were killed and a 3lb trout was a rare thing. Nowadays 3lb trout are common and fish of 5lb are caught regularly- and put back! You can only kill them once!

 

[Nickb]

Of course Stalkers do a sort of catch and release , as we select those ready for shooting and those we just watch or photograph .

Which is one reason why we have too many deer , I shoot on sight .

 

[Bowland blades]

Which is one reason why we have too many deer , I shoot on sight .

meaning none selective Culling ? that's just crackers in most locations and species .

 

[Nickb]

meaning none selective Culling ? that's just crackers in most locations and species .

No it isn't, landowner wants deer gone , so they go.
Culling is culling ....get em shot

 

[Bowland blades]

No it isn't, landowner wants deer gone , so they go.
Culling is culling ....get em shot

So , you suggest shooting female Deer when there are likely to have followers etc ? Go back to shotgun drives ? etc

 

[Norfolk Deer Search]

No it isn't, landowner wants deer gone , so they go.
Culling is culling ....get em shot

That’s the crux of it I’m afraid, if you think different to that, that is the reason there is too many deer in the uk..

personally I shoot on sight if it’s in season.

I’ve shot some stonking spikers that would have make absolutely belting stags , landowner wants then shot, in the larder they go.

 

[Nickb]

So , you suggest shooting female Deer when there are likely to have followers etc ? Go back to shotgun drives ? etc

Shoot on sight if in season.
Personally I think it should be legal to night shoot too in England.

 

[VSS]

Shoot on sight if in season.
Personally I think it should be legal to night shoot too in England.

Could you just copy and paste that statement into the thread about ethics, please? Things have gone a bit quiet over there......

 

[Nickb]

Could you just copy and paste that statement into the thread about ethics, please? Things have gone a bit quiet over there......

What is unethical about night shooting, would reduce the population quite a bit.
Why is it ok to shoot foxes , hares and rabbits at night but not deer ?

 

[VSS]

What is unethical about night shooting, would reduce the population quite a bit.
Why is it ok to shoot foxes , hares and rabbits at night but not deer ?

Nothing at all.
I fully agree with you.
I just thought it would be a nice addition to the other thread, that's all