A Shotgun on boar?
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joelewis1971
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Hi All
You might find this info useful if you want to reload slugs for hunting.
Put " buck ball and slug " into google and you should find the info you need form uk sight
brenneke type foster type and sabot's
Hope this helps
Regards
Joe
You might find this info useful if you want to reload slugs for hunting.
Put " buck ball and slug " into google and you should find the info you need form uk sight
brenneke type foster type and sabot's
Hope this helps
Regards
Joe
i cant understand why 22 people voted that they wouldnt shoot a boar with a shotgun? have they had a negative experience doing it ? or is it an "in theory" no?
i can personally say ive shot a fair few boar in oz with sg and solids, the sg s were good for 30 yds and the solids up to about 50 with my winchester 1400 semi.
my mate had a mossberg trophy slugster with a 4x40 sight on it and could group 3 shots into a 3in group at 100yds.
it was very accurate . mossberg had a video of a shooter hitting a matchbox every shot at 100yds.
the sgs opened up to much after about 30yds and did a lot of meat damage without stopping them.
i havnt shot at driven boar on a proper guided shoot but id say give it a go, !!
i can personally say ive shot a fair few boar in oz with sg and solids, the sg s were good for 30 yds and the solids up to about 50 with my winchester 1400 semi.
my mate had a mossberg trophy slugster with a 4x40 sight on it and could group 3 shots into a 3in group at 100yds.
it was very accurate . mossberg had a video of a shooter hitting a matchbox every shot at 100yds.
the sgs opened up to much after about 30yds and did a lot of meat damage without stopping them.
i havnt shot at driven boar on a proper guided shoot but id say give it a go, !!
Wingers243
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I can't profess to have practical experience of the situation but I wouldn't have a problem with using them at typical shotgun ranges. Must be like hitting them on the head with a 14 pound hammer!
If you're going to use a shotgun and slug I would have thought the most important thing is getting your shotgun (if your using one without rifle type open sights or a scope) set up just right. Don't forget that your shotgun could be set up to put the centre of a shot pattern a foot high at 30 yards and maybe higher. Thats not a problem using shot, and once your used to it you probably won't notice you are shooting a bit low on everything or the pattern will be taking care of things but with a slug, you just missed piggy! Equally, trying to shoot with a gun that doesn't shoot perfectly to point of aim left and right is bad enough with a 3 foot wide shot pattern let alone a slug.
This is one of the only cases I can see for an adjustable comb so you can play about with it to your hearts content until both cast and comb height are spot on.
If you really want to see where a shotgun is shooting, go out at night with a target board and lamp. put a single spot on the board, load up and get a mate to lamp the board, don't wait, as soon as that lamp goes on, mount and shoot at that spot. It is important to get the man with the lamp to stand at least 10 yards to the side of you so you get no overspill of light onto the gun, otherwise you might actually be looking at the barrel and lining things up, that will give you a false result. If you can't see the gun, you can't line anything up and you will know if the gun is actually shooting exactly where you're looking. I haven't done this for a while as all my guns shoot right where I want them to but it does work. It is sometimes the answer if you've got a gun you just can't hit anything with.
If you're going to use a shotgun and slug I would have thought the most important thing is getting your shotgun (if your using one without rifle type open sights or a scope) set up just right. Don't forget that your shotgun could be set up to put the centre of a shot pattern a foot high at 30 yards and maybe higher. Thats not a problem using shot, and once your used to it you probably won't notice you are shooting a bit low on everything or the pattern will be taking care of things but with a slug, you just missed piggy! Equally, trying to shoot with a gun that doesn't shoot perfectly to point of aim left and right is bad enough with a 3 foot wide shot pattern let alone a slug.
This is one of the only cases I can see for an adjustable comb so you can play about with it to your hearts content until both cast and comb height are spot on.
If you really want to see where a shotgun is shooting, go out at night with a target board and lamp. put a single spot on the board, load up and get a mate to lamp the board, don't wait, as soon as that lamp goes on, mount and shoot at that spot. It is important to get the man with the lamp to stand at least 10 yards to the side of you so you get no overspill of light onto the gun, otherwise you might actually be looking at the barrel and lining things up, that will give you a false result. If you can't see the gun, you can't line anything up and you will know if the gun is actually shooting exactly where you're looking. I haven't done this for a while as all my guns shoot right where I want them to but it does work. It is sometimes the answer if you've got a gun you just can't hit anything with.
Jagare
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Bigdan, You have to remember that in England to use a shotgun with rifle slug has not been at all common. Rifle slugs are Ok for boar. I use a Combination weapon and when we are hunting roe on a hunting grounds where they have boar i always have a slug in the shotgun barrel. Slug are very much a short range cartridge they work best at under 100 yards. 50 yards if you are useing a sxs or over & under. The new generation of sabot slugs shot out of the rifled barrels that are avaliabe now give very good accuracy. SG's are a complete waste oF time for shooting anything that we shoot in Euorpe or GB.
hello jagare,Jagare said:
i agree sgs are a bit limited, we used them to good effect in thick cover like lignum or jungly swamps but only at ranges up to 30 yds,which is a long shot in those types of places,. they do stop boar very well close up
but the pattern opens up too much over 30 yds.
on the american forums a lot of hunters use nothing else but sgs and slugs for deer as they are not allowed to use rifles in state forests.
the majority of boar shot in queensland or the northern territory ,where i was , were head shot, as they are sold commercially to local meatworks who send them off to germany. the price for body shot pigs was very poor because of the meat damage.
Little Terry
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Just my two-penneth 
I prefer to shoot driven boar with a rifle for a number of reasons:
1. I don't like the recoil given out by my light shotgun with slugs in,
2. The Rifle gives more range and versatility on other species that may present themselves during this type of hunt,
3. I find it easier to deliver a fast, accurate follow-up shot with the rifle over a slug in a shotgun,
4. My rifle is nice and light to carry, short and I can easily shoot it with open sights.
Having said that, My shotgun is a 687 silver pig, not an auto. I have never had the chance to shoot a slug through a properly set-up auto with the correct barrel etc, so it could change my mind!!!
I know that many continental hunters use a drilling loaded with slugs, but they do have the rifle option there too - often in 9,3x62 or similar.
I prefer to shoot driven boar with a rifle for a number of reasons:
1. I don't like the recoil given out by my light shotgun with slugs in,
2. The Rifle gives more range and versatility on other species that may present themselves during this type of hunt,
3. I find it easier to deliver a fast, accurate follow-up shot with the rifle over a slug in a shotgun,
4. My rifle is nice and light to carry, short and I can easily shoot it with open sights.
Having said that, My shotgun is a 687 silver pig, not an auto. I have never had the chance to shoot a slug through a properly set-up auto with the correct barrel etc, so it could change my mind!!!
I know that many continental hunters use a drilling loaded with slugs, but they do have the rifle option there too - often in 9,3x62 or similar.
Up to 50m I've shot number of pigs with solids from O/U Baikal 12 gauge. The longest kill was slightly beyond 100m with sabot slug WSP12 from the same gun. Even with brenekke we had successful shots at 90m.
I've tried more than 15 different slugs on the market and all were good up to 30m but after that some did bad groups. However you have to find what your gun likes the best and when you find it use it on boar. Last year I used 600gr Magnum Brenekke and they worked really well in semis and pumps up to 70m. Anyway they don't do a miracle and they prefer shots behind the shoulders.
Sabot slug as Winchester Supreme gold partition gives better result on the animal than most big bore rifles. The KO power and accuracy is great even from some non rifled shotuguns.
I've tried more than 15 different slugs on the market and all were good up to 30m but after that some did bad groups. However you have to find what your gun likes the best and when you find it use it on boar. Last year I used 600gr Magnum Brenekke and they worked really well in semis and pumps up to 70m. Anyway they don't do a miracle and they prefer shots behind the shoulders.
Sabot slug as Winchester Supreme gold partition gives better result on the animal than most big bore rifles. The KO power and accuracy is great even from some non rifled shotuguns.
Slugs are very effective. They are used on deer, boar and bear in the US, especially in thick cover, or in flat farmland where they don't want you shooting a .270 and having a stray bullet traveling too far.
With a rifled barrel, scope or red dot sight, they are capable to 150 yards or more. Burris, Bushnell and Nikon make small variable power scope with BDC reticles for slug guns. If you are shooting at 35 yards, then a red dot is probably better or just the iron sights made for slug barrels
A smooth, short barrel with sights made for buckshot and slugs will surprise you with its accuracy. Someone recently posted a video on SD of a girl shooting a regular pump shotgun without rifle sights or scope, clobbering targets at 100 yards.
With a rifled barrel, scope or red dot sight, they are capable to 150 yards or more. Burris, Bushnell and Nikon make small variable power scope with BDC reticles for slug guns. If you are shooting at 35 yards, then a red dot is probably better or just the iron sights made for slug barrels
A smooth, short barrel with sights made for buckshot and slugs will surprise you with its accuracy. Someone recently posted a video on SD of a girl shooting a regular pump shotgun without rifle sights or scope, clobbering targets at 100 yards.
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