Advice needed: Ex partner and threats to call the police.

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MW73

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My partner and I have been living together for a number years and as many up and down the country have hit a sour spot in our relationship, we had words the other day and out of the blue she mentioned that if I carry on being difficult she's tell the police as she knows that being a licensed firearms holder they'll have no choice but to confiscate my rifles.

She's since apologised for the outburst but it has got me worrying as I have a clean record and now this is stuck in my head on overdrive.

Has anyone else on here experienced a similar situation and any positive advice you can give would be appreciated.
 
Get the f out of there….

I am so sorry to say this but if it’s at that point you need to be looking to get away. I watched a person close to me go through a completely toxic divorce, including all the hassles that firearms can throw into the fold and the advice I would give is always be first to contact the police , don’t leave it thinking you don’t want to create a fuss.

I should add this person never got their certs back…it had gone too far and was a complete sh*t show on the side of the police and BASC.

I genuinely feel for you but you do not need someone in your life that tries to hold things over you!

Best of luck.

Gixer
 
A mate of mine had a similar situation, soon as we got a whiff of trouble he transferred everything to my cabinets and when she made a allegation he threatened her with them an armed response unit turned up at his to seize them opened his cabinet for them with nothing there but a note of when they were transferred, they checked the national database realised they had gone a long time before and she then got done for wasting police time.
 
Been there, I had her new love threaten to kill me and he said to my face he could as he had two notches on his belt already where he had not been prosecuted. An English mate here in Germany had the same toxic missus and the gestapo here took all his guns which he never got back as they had destroyed them.
 
Yes I had the same, although I was married an was going through a divorce. I put the rifles to an rfd and never told her, phoned and explained the situation to the then firearms licensing manager (an inspector).

She came out with the same rubbish again, “I’ll say x,y,z and get your guns taken off you” - it was all to do with not getting it all her own way financially. I just said “really” and I opened the empty cabinet and walked away leaving her looking confused.

I left them in storage for a year and it was the best move I made as she couldn’t get in behind me and the licensing office was fully aware of the situation.

I moved out of the house a short time after but left them in storage until it was all sorted out. Plenty of time to stalk once your away from them and the legalities of divorce or any financial ties dealt with.

The only issue is if you require them for work in which case move out asap.
 
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Best to get them tucked away safely with an rfd and get the transfer note in your cabinet.

Inform licensing every step of the way.

It will be a whole lot less hassle than the other option , imagine she does make the call and they arrive to a cabinet full.
 
have a friend in this very situation now, guns taken over a year ago when his relationship with his partner hit a low point a member of her family made allegations to the police, he knowing of this in advance put his gun in storage at an RFD
however the police asked him to return his certificates which is voluntarily did, so he could not collect them and hence removed any potential risk.
The relationship issues got sorted and they are still together, yet the police have still not agreed to return his certificates, last contact with them was August last year when they told him he has to wait for the case to be reviewed. So far RFD storage fees have been well over a thousand pounds. He is reaching the conclusion he will be lucky to get the certificates back which he has held for twelve years, especially after Plymouth.
Any legal challenge is going to be expensive and uncertain outcome and the police obviously know that.
 
Dave_45 said:
Best to get them tucked away safely with an rfd and get the transfer note in your cabinet.

Inform licensing every step of the way.

It will be a whole lot less hassle than the other option , imagine she does make the call and they arrive to a cabinet full.
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once you inform licensing they will ask for the certificates to be sent to them, to eliminate any risk.
 
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As other have said, get the guns stored away from the house.

In my case post-divorce and just the "access" issues to me daughter she made that threat from time to time, eventually I engaged my solicitor and she was told to put-up or shut-up, as she had been living away from me for 4 years, she was on shaky ground and shut-up.

Perhaps going to Relate will help you both, If she has apologised, ask her to put it in writing?
 
Get the guns away to an RFD then call your FEO and update him - all without her getting wind of it. Then be very careful what you say/do until you can get the _ _ _ _ out of dodge.
 
disco_ike said:
A mate of mine had a similar situation, soon as we got a whiff of trouble he transferred everything to my cabinets and when she made a allegation he threatened her with them an armed response unit turned up at his to seize them opened his cabinet for them with nothing there but a note of when they were transferred, they checked the national database realised they had gone a long time before and she then got done for wasting police time.
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I would love this to happen to some of the sh*t stirrers that claim guns have been used to threaten etc…in reality it rarely happens though.
 
MW73 said:
My partner and I have been living together for a number years and as many up and down the country have hit a sour spot in our relationship, we had words the other day and out of the blue she mentioned that if I carry on being difficult she's tell the police as she knows that being a licensed firearms holder they'll have no choice but to confiscate my rifles.

She's since apologised for the outburst but it has got me worrying as I have a clean record and now this is stuck in my head on overdrive.

Has anyone else on here experienced a similar situation and any positive advice you can give would be appreciated.
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You need to have a long hard look at your relationship. Is it just a bad patch or has it already failed? The threats she made could have repercussions far beyond just losing your guns. Personally I would regard the threat as having crossed a red line.
 
You go to police first and at the same time rfd your guns . don't surrender your cert unless you have been inform your rights have been removed just tell the rfd not to allow you access until you have been cleared or the case resolved. if its a divorce you can add there fees as costs to of set any payments she is after you for! if you get paid to cull this again will be a lost of income at her loss. You need to get advice so get a gun savvy legal man .
The police won't care if you run up RFD bills nor will the FLO! so get your case in first with a legal letter not just a few kind words on SD .
wish you luck .
 
paul o' said:
You go to police first and at the same time rfd your guns . don't surrender your cert unless you have been inform your rights have been removed just tell the rfd not to allow you access until you have been cleared or the case resolved. if its a divorce you can add there fees as costs to of set any payments she is after you for! if you get paid to cull this again will be a lost of income at her loss. You need to get advice so get a gun savvy legal man .
The police won't care if you run up RFD bills nor will the FLO! so get your case in first with a legal letter not just a few kind words on SD .
wish you luck .
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Sadly it does not work like that, Once you inform the FEO 99.9% certain they will ask you to voluntarily surrender your certificate/s if you refuse it will look bad on you, and then they will revoke them.
Especially now after Plymouth and Surrey, they will not allow for any risk.
 
If the comments and advice posted represent an accurate assessment of the likely outcome of police involvement, whether as a result of a complaint or a request for help or guidance by the cert holder, then you’re all, every single one of you, just a single phone call away from losing your certs.
How did you let it get to this?
 
They need a reason to revoke you and by him removing the guns you have no access to them you just hold a bit of paper thats why he needs a real gun savvy man to help him .
Times have changed since i'v had dealings around this but pre- empting is better than holding tight wishing it would go away.
Could be tol wrong but i'd get my ducks in line before the other side start hip shooting .
 
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