Advice on Scotland red deer and fishing needed

Palf

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I am travelling to Scotland from Australia with my eldest son (16yo) in August. We are both keen hunters and fishermen, and hoping to spend a few days stalking and fishing while we were there. I would like an authentic experience on an estate where the stalking, fishing and Scottish culture are first class. I don't know when I will be back, so want to make this trip count.
I approached Letterewe estate, however they seem to be fully booked, and only offer week long packages for stalking. I would have 3/4 days maximum around 18-22 August.
Any advice on the best destination would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
 
It might be an idea to look at Dougarie Estate on the Isle of Arran, they have some challenging stalking and a wee bit of Salmon and Sea Trout fishing - they might be booked up though as a popular time as @Mungo has hinted at.
 
Dumfries offers some really cheap and accessible river and some loch fishing and great roe stalking.
You could do a day on the Annan for grayling then maybe a day on the bucks or stags, or if you went on Facebook and got in touch with Colin Lockerbie (Solway Stalking) you could try for a boar and goat too. He's not a million miles away. There are plenty of small bnb's and lovely pubs in the area.
There's a guy on here who offers stalking near Stranrar,Contact – Galloway Country Sports and then you have plenty of fishing to choose from.
This hotel offers the best of both worlds.
 
I am not sure what the authentic Scottish experience on an estate is. If it's something out of a Compton Mackenzie novel, you may as others have suggested probably left it too late. If you're after high quality stalking then my suggestion would be the Knoydart Foundation. They also offer fishing but I think this is secondary to the stalking.

This chap may give you an idea of what to expect.
 
I am travelling to Scotland from Australia with my eldest son (16yo) in August. We are both keen hunters and fishermen, and hoping to spend a few days stalking and fishing while we were there. I would like an authentic experience on an estate where the stalking, fishing and Scottish culture are first class. I don't know when I will be back, so want to make this trip count.
I approached Letterewe estate, however they seem to be fully booked, and only offer week long packages for stalking. I would have 3/4 days maximum around 18-22 August.
Any advice on the best destination would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

I have a feeling that Amhuinnsuidhe have a "mixed rod" week at around that time - basically this means you don't need to book the whole estate but rather they operate on a sort of "bed and breakfast" basis for the week. It does mean that you will be sharing the fishing and stalking with a number of completely random people, but most other options will be booked this year and maybe even next year. Depending on your preferences that might be a really good thing. This is one of the premier fishing/stalking estates and is located on the Isle of Lewis, for a very many people this would be a "bucket list" location.

They have trout, salmon, and sea trout fishing with the big advantage that they have lochs as well as the rivers so if the water is low there remains a chance of good fishing on the lochs. They also have remarkable red deer stalking - the deer are genuinely wild and aren't fed beside the road so you need to actually stalk them to get one but it does mean that heads won't be as big as some places will offer.

The estate also have some self catering accommodation and may be able to offer a package with that and some fishing/stalking or they may be able to offer stalking/fishing on one of their sister estates which can also provide really remarkable days out.

One thing I will say is that this is real, wild, fishing and stalking and so it is a big advantage to be fit enough to climb the hills and walk on the moor. You do see guests getting driven up and down the track in the pickup truck on the lookout for a stag they are capable of walking to and that isn't stalking in my view, though as I get older I see the appeal of it. Also some of the fishing is extremely remote and requires a lot of walking over hills and very rough ground. Generally speaking there is no mechanical extraction, and usually you won't be driven up the hill to within a few yards of the deer in an Argo, so anything shot will have to be dragged to the track.

Some years back a forum member won an Amhuinnsuidhe attempt at a MacNab and posted a little report:


If you are fit enough to benefit, and want a real wild sporting experience, get in touch with the estate and see if they have anything to offer you.


If that doesn't work out for you, or you maybe want easier stalking, it is worth talking to Russell Hird to see if he would have any availability. He's usually booked years ahead but you never know:

 
There is also this video on Amhuinnsuidhe.

Ghillie at where I fish on the Tay used to be the head ghillie for there and keeps telling me to go there as a bucket list trip.

 
There is also this video on Amhuinnsuidhe.

Ghillie at where I fish on the Tay used to be the head ghillie for there and keeps telling me to go there as a bucket list trip.



That video really annoys me as they clearly shot it in some sort of log profile and then don't seem to have made any attempt to grade it so the images look really lifty.

Amhuinnsuidhe is a bit of extra travel for most people but Ian is right in the sense that it really is something that anyone looking for real sport should try to do. One of the good, and bad, things about Lewis/Harris is that until relatively recently the sport was extremely exclusive and so it was and area largely overlooked on the basis that it was only available to a very few people, and they already knew all about it. I have some older fishing books that, basically, say "there is no fishing on Lewis and Harris." Of course the opposite is true, the best fishing is on Lewis and Harris, but it was simply the case that no one needing to read a book was going to be getting at it. It is now somewhat more accessible but the effort required to get there, and the effort required to get to some of the fishing and most of the stalking, tends to positively influence the people who come.
 
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