Aniseed oil/for tracking

Trapper

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Gents
would it be worthwhile to mix up some Aniseed oil and water to lay a trail , I know that deer dont buy aniseed balls at the CO-OP , but dogs kinda like the smell , only my blood water mix is short so am looking for an alternative , (ok shoot more deer) I hear .
In your opinion would this be to strong a smell or counter productive .
Trapper
 
Hi Trapper

I would stay clear of the aniseed. Training is based on quality not quantity. Wait till you get some blood again. You want the dog to trail a particular scent only and not get distracted on another scent trail that happens to be stronger at the time.

Mark
 
Trapper
I thought those 2 monsters you shot recently would of filled the blood supplly for a while ;)

Did you manage to save any.

Jonathon
 
Johnathon
:oops: :oops: no I didnt mate , I was more concerned with recovery I just plain forgot :oops: :oops: Mark good point I will stick with the original recipe.
Regards Trapper
 
Some keepers mix aniseed with the bird feed in an effort to keep birds on the ground (or attract others :shock: ). If you train your pooch on an aniseed trail you may end up finding a shed load of bird feeders instead! :lol:
 
Dear Pinsandpaint

Its about time I corrected the growing number of deer tracking experts on the meaning of the word 'schweiss'
Schweiss has several meanings
1. Sweat as in human sweat
2. Welding
3. Blood trail from injured game animals.

These meanings are quite different and specific in their meaning. Do you own a sweathound, weldinghound or bloodhound?? My hound cant weld very well as she cant keep her goggles on and keeps singing her fur.

I know Lola tracks blood trail but in the UK is everybody training their dogs to follow 'sweat' -Yuk
I find it quite funny when some people expound on the virtues of thier Bavarian or Hannoverian hounds but can't get their name right.

Mark of Tunbrige Wells
 
blood

Hi,

I think confusion some times arises from the literal translations and the way some German phrases are translated by the Germans prior to reaching our shores.
An example being when I first got involved in Bavarians in Germany the handler who was explaining the dogs role described it as a bloodhound, his broken English and my broken German coming up with the best fitting description, which thinking back was quite accurate. Twenty years later when companies started producing what they translate as sweat scent for the English speaking countries the translation came, I take it, from the blood of a wounded animal e.g. schweiss, hence sweat.
I suppose many meanings get lost over the years through translation and adaptation. After all the working blood hound in this country follows the scent trail/track left by people not blood, a main contributor to that scent picture is sweat so should we have called it a 'chlorine, sodium, potassium, urea,calcium,magnesium,phosphate suphate,iodine, nitrogen,bicarbanate,lipid,sugar,(and its metabolites),vitamins,and hormone hound‘, not quite as snappy.
I think you would be quite surprised by what Lola follows and that the components that are involved in the scent picture are far more complex than most people imagine, but that’s a huge subject that I wont bore you all with now, however, sorry Mark, very much yuk, your dog does follow sweat, as does every body else’s, and even worse it follows varying degrees of decomposition and nasty little bacteria, even bigger yuk.

Anyway the original purpose of the post. Sweatscent is a good stand in Trapper as it has the components of blood and you really need your dog to practice as close to the real thing as you can, that said nothing beats the real thing.

Hope this helps
Best Regds Mark M
 
liquid pluck

i have used liquidized pluck which worked very well with my young chocolate lab. ( yes i did say chocolate, it would seem they do have a use, dont tell my better half i said this )
make sure you put the lid on, and clean the liquidizer after you use it and dont tell the wife.
this mix also freezes very well.

good luck

cookingfat
 
I believe the term "bloodhound" originated back in medieval times when the original "bloodhounds" were used to track wounded Knights after a battle.

It seems that if a Knight was thus captured, he was held until a ransom was paid so this was quite a luctrative business.

If you imagine that somebody injured after one of these battles was likely to have some pretty impressive wounds, and hence the term "bloodhound"; it was more a job description, than a description of what/how the dog was scenting...

From what I believe these original bloodhounds were a far cry from the bloodhound of today, and were closer in confirmation to a modern fox or stag hound...
 
The actual origin of the term "bloodhound" seems to be unclear. In France, they were known as "St Hubert Hounds" after one of the Monastories credited with breeding them at that time.

One theory is that "Bloodhound" is a corruption of "blooded hound" which refers to the fact these were of pure blood or that they were favoured by the pure blooded Nobility for hunting. Again this goes back to France before these hounds were known in the UK.

When the Normans arrived in the UK, they often refered to "Sleuth Hounds" in their writings and this is thought to be another name for the same type of hounds...

Whatever its origins, its easy to see how the name "bloodhound" stuck given the tasks they were used for, even if the name as it is understood now, isn't strictly accurate.
 
Trapper said:
Think I will go out and collect another Sample this week!! from the local A&E.
Trapper

As most A&E's get an abundance of blood, sweat,vomit and urine it should be a very pungent mix to lay a track with.

Best of luck.
 
Blood is the thing I have the most grief with, it either goes solid, or if I forget to freeze it it stinks like carrion in no time.

I have taken to using deer cleaves in my scent shoes (tried to get my wife to wear them and lay the odd trail, she says thats pervy) and the powdered blood from paint and pins just to embelish the trail. Seems to work OK and the dog switches to the real thing OK.

I decided to use this as oposed just using cleaves as I train in a deer park and I was trying to find a way of distinguishing from unshot deer.

Anyway the powdered blood mixes instantly, far better then trying to defrost frozen blood in the microwave because I forgot to get it out the night before.
 
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