Are Scenthounds All Round Deer Dogs?

[Wolverine]

But with the dog on a lead or loose?

I think it fair to say that your and Jamross's dogs have so much experience (I exclude Whisky) that you can follow a potentially wounded deer with a loose dog without much harm being done.

You agree?

On a leash Baron,I would agree about the dogs potentially following wounded deer being loose as they are experienced however still better on the leash,especially after having inspected shot site and deer shot in gut,leg or head better to keep in contact with dog and release for the hetze or shoot again when wounded animal is in view

 

[Wolverine]

At this rate you will soon both have all the books in english on this subject.

Perhaps it is an idea to learn German, should not take more than a couple of years. Then I can let you have a real list. There are a few good ones with only 500 pages or so.

Ich verstehe Sie nicht
Did German "o"grade,a bit rusty on it though

 

[jamross65]

At this rate you will soon both have all the books in english on this subject.

Perhaps it is an idea to learn German, should not take more than a couple of years. Then I can let you have a real list. There are a few good ones with only 500 pages or so.

Georges

Ich lernteetwas Deutschsprechenbei Reisenals junger Mann, aber nurgenug, ummeinen Wegmit den schönen deutschen gilrs Ich hatte das Glück,kennen zu lernen.Leider habe ich nichtdenke, dass dieSätze, die ichkennewirdmiteinem BuchüberHundeerziehungzu helfen.

 

[barongcw]

Ich verstehe Sie nicht
Did German "o"grade,a bit rusty on it though

Hervorragend!

 

[barongcw]

Georges

Ich lernteetwas Deutschsprechenbei Reisenals junger Mann, aber nurgenug, ummeinen Wegmit den schönendeutschengilrsIchhatte das Glück,kennen zu lernen.Leider habe ich nichtdenke, dass dieSätze, die ichkennewirdmiteinem BuchüberHundeerziehungzu helfen.

Do not agree with you there. Komm hier and such like can be used for both.

 

[stone]

Now that is interesting. When you track a possibly wounded deer at night do you bother with blue lights and suchlike to see if you can find any blood or you rely on the dog alone?

No Baron
I use a good white light
Once I feel I hav examied the shot site and sometimes the direction the deer has moved in by slots alone to my satisfaction
I will then put the dog on the trail
We work as a team and she covers the areas I am not capable of
Wether loose or on a leash makes no difference initially
Only on finding a beast does being on a leash some times matter depending on how lively the deer you find is or the cover you are searching in

 

[jamross65]

Do not agree with you there. Komm hier and such like can be used for both.

Brilliant Georges....

I am now going to try that on my wife...

 

[stone]

But with the dog on a lead or loose?

I think it fair to say that your and Jamross's dogs have so much experience (I exclude Whisky) that you can follow a potentially wounded deer with a loose dog without much harm being done.

You agree?

Fair enough you are talking about Brian and George here in your remarks but you make a valid observation
It is not always about having a good dog
If the handler has a clue then a poor dog can still learn and improve
It's all about team work and not just the nose

 

[jamross65]

But with the dog on a lead or loose?

I think it fair to say that your and Jamross's dogs have so much experience (I exclude Whisky) that you can follow a potentially wounded deer with a loose dog without much harm being done.

You agree?

To be honest Baron, I cannot claim to have a true tracking dog. I have a dog that finds deer, whether using wind or ground scent or whatever. I was ignorant to how to train a dog to track when I started out with my GWP and only had my experience with gundogs to fall back on as none of my mates at the time had trained tracking dogs either.

She has a fair bit of experience on deer as she is out with me almost every time I stalk and has been since she was about a year old. She is 9 this year.

She has probably gained that experience more through luck than my training.

 

[Wolverine]

Hervorragend!

Knapp daneben ist auch vorbei ein Buch von vome bis hinten lesen

 

[Wolverine]

Brilliant Georges....

I am now going to try that on my wife...

Can i try too

 

[jamross65]

Fair enough you are talking about Brian and George here in your remarks but you make a valid observation
It is not always about having a good dog
If the handler has a clue then a poor dog can still learn and improve
It's all about team work and not just the nose

Didn't see your post stone but that is essentially how I got by although I think mine would have made a great dog in the right hands...

 

[Wolverine]

Didn't see your post stone but that is essentially how I got by although I think mine would have made a great dog in the right hands...

She finds the deer does she not?
As Rich says its the team that counts,the combination of dog and handler makes the difference in really challenging situations

 

[stone]

To be honest Baron, I cannot claim to have a true tracking dog. I have a dog that finds deer, whether using wind or ground scent or whatever. I was ignorant to how to train a dog to track when I started out with my GWP and only had my experience with gundogs to fall back on as none of my mates at the time had trained tracking dogs either.

She has a fair bit of experience on deer as she is out with me almost every time I stalk and has been since she was about a year old. She is 9 this year.

She has probably gained that experience more through luck than my training.

She finds the deer does she not?
As Rich says its the team that counts,the combination of dog and handler makes the difference in really challenging situations

Exactly
It is not just about the dog or the handler ... But the team that Works to the full ability

 

[barongcw]

No Baron
Wether loose or on a leash makes no difference initially

Can you please expand on this?

If you track a deer at night and it turns out to be wounded you dare to let your dog loose to find and stop it? Or do you only let the dog loose when you are virtually certain in your mind that it will be dead?

How do you find the dog afterwards? By barking or a Garmin like GPS.

Were we not going to have lunch? there will be plenty to talk about.

 

[barongcw]

Can i try too

For your wife I recommend large amount of soft soap and a great deal of attention on mothers day. You will understand why.

 

[stone]

Can you please expand on this?

If you track a deer at night and it turns out to be wounded you dare to let your dog loose to find and stop it? Or do you only let the dog loose when you are virtually certain in your mind that it will be dead?

How do you find the dog afterwards? By barking or a Garmin like GPS.

Were we not going to have lunch? there will be plenty to talk about.

When I first start to use the dog it all depends on the cover as the leash can easily get tangled up and my dog works pretty tight off a leash anyway
It is only when I feel I may be getting close or the dog bumps the deer do I put her back on a leash
If the deer is that badly injured it will ly up or stand not to far from where it got moved from and not an issue
I don't let my dog loose on a runner as a cause to an end , the gun does that
I just use her to locate it
The lamp usually lights them up and then I hav the eyes as an aim point
Obviously making sure it is the right deer can take a few minutes to sort if you hav multiple deer surrounding the injured one
But practice makes perfect
Not forgotten about lunch just time is limited at the mo due to work

 

[dean]

And I am positive you will not be dissappointed by my suggestion. Right breeding and off to a cracking start.

Thats a cracking pup you have there. Good breeding your half way there