BBC values
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We haven't funded the BBC for nearly 15 years, and nothing I have seen recently would convince me to review that decision.
When Andrew Marr talks about quitting the BBC because he's not allowed to air his views and talks to The Guardian about the BBC being "destroyed", you know Director General Tim Davie is doing something right.
If Packham and Emilie Maitlis would follow him out the door it might almost be worth buying a license again. Almost...
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If Packham and Emilie Maitlis would follow him out the door it might almost be worth buying a license again. Almost...
Andrew Marr: 'There is a drive on to destroy the BBC'
The veteran political interviewer on how his stroke has changed him, interviewing Boris Johnson and what he thinks of the rumours Charles Moore could be the corporation’s new chairman
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Stalker62
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It is serendipitous only, but I stopped my BBC licence payments at the start of this month.
This for me, was further validation that that decision was correct.
Terribly sad the way a great institution has gone.
dartmoordog
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Absolutely cannot stand them.
The News of the World was closed after scandal involving phone hacking and suffered widespread criticism and activism from celebrities. The BBC suffered no sanction at all for condoning and facilitating decades of paedophile offences, nor for the latest scandal, nor for the rafts of ongoing nepotism.
There's a lesson here for anyone who thinks that nationalisation is ever a good idea.
There's a lesson here for anyone who thinks that nationalisation is ever a good idea.
Freeforester
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Er, I’ll second support that!
Better in Robert Dougal and Richard Baker’s day, they just got on with the job without all the nudging, bias and slant. No wonder Marr, etc are upset (remember his BoJo interview??), but it is they themselves who have ’destroyed’ the BBC, if we could separate the opinion and bias from the facts people would be a bit happier. More power to Davie’s elbow.
Better in Robert Dougal and Richard Baker’s day, they just got on with the job without all the nudging, bias and slant. No wonder Marr, etc are upset (remember his BoJo interview??), but it is they themselves who have ’destroyed’ the BBC, if we could separate the opinion and bias from the facts people would be a bit happier. More power to Davie’s elbow.
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alberta boy
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I wish we could do the same . Unfortunately , the CBC , the Canadian equivalent of the BBC , is funded through Canadian tax dollars , we can't refuse to fund it . The CBC also parallels the BBC in it's bias and doesn't reflect the beliefs or concerns of most Canadians . It used to be a respected and reliable source of news and Canadian culture , it's basically become a shill for the left and the Liberal party , their ratings are dropping and are they're largely becoming irrelevant . Like what happened to the BBC , it is a sad end to a once respected institution .
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Koenig
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Whilst I agree with some of the comments above. They do some good if limited stuff to be fair. Their history and some drama is top tier. My wife has the full Sky package which gives her almost everything except Boxing which she has no interest in. With the exception of Sky Atlantic and Sky News if you want to try 600 channels of utter pish get a subscription! I I’ve never seen drivel like it.
There is a taint to most BBC stuff these days.
I must say I appreciated Williams comments but not Boris's. For this to happen again would be unthinkable, there is also a price to pay for this calumny.
There must be extensive reform at the BBC as it has become self-serving and self-perpetuating.
Packham, Maitliss, Kunsberg all need censure and until that happens, the reputation of the only reliable source of truth will lie in ashes. The shining light in the BBC firmament is wildlife by Sir David. Maybe that should be split and become a money earner for all of us.
I must say I appreciated Williams comments but not Boris's. For this to happen again would be unthinkable, there is also a price to pay for this calumny.
There must be extensive reform at the BBC as it has become self-serving and self-perpetuating.
Packham, Maitliss, Kunsberg all need censure and until that happens, the reputation of the only reliable source of truth will lie in ashes. The shining light in the BBC firmament is wildlife by Sir David. Maybe that should be split and become a money earner for all of us.
The BBC refuse to acknowledge their own failings/failures. There has been a series of these over the last twenty plus years; failure to implement a series of independent reports suggesting they should have a rural editor to rank alongside their other senior posts. In cahoots with the Police they failed on Operation Yewtree (the investigation of "establishment figures" over paedophilia whilst at the same time protecting one Jimmy Saville. Then came the Sir Cliff Richard house search again with the Police. They repeatedly fail the impartiality test; preferring to balance opinions rather than present facts [although to be fair their "fact checker" work of more recent years does tend to balance BUT how prominent is its work?]. Their political bias is unquestionable, but hardly surprising from where they recruit all their staff! They have encouraged the cult of personality amongst their news and reporting staff without enforcing rigorously their "standards" and their pay scales for such folk are at one point ludicrous. They must know rural britons hate Chris Packham yet persist in employing him (and his friends and relations). They say he is an independent contractor yet they continue commissioning him and failing to enforce their impartiality standards. Time for significant redundancies??
Which large organisation can you point to that is free of nepotism Public or Private? BBC is not perfect Who is? For me David Attenbrough alone is worth the fee.
What will we do without him.
Yes many terrible events as you point out with no actions Other than Lessons wil be learnt!!
Why is it we do see across so so many organisations that people resign bag the pensions and payouts and walk away, and hang on to this money they should be stripped of all such benefits once found guilty
When we hear MPs and Prime Minister is very concerned about BBC, just makes you laugh Boris didnt sack Pretty Patel for Bullying ignored report, Russia report sat on , the list goes on
Would that be the same David Attenborough who released A Life on our Planet directly on Netflix last year? He isn’t exclusive to the BBC.
At 95….one wonders who the BBC could possibly be lining up to take over from him
I am mid 50s and from around about 5-6yrs? old use to watch World About Us on a Sunday evening.
He has been on BBC for all my life and made so many interesting programs for so long. They are the best they are also very very well resourced when we see size of his crew. No body makes better
You point to last years Netflix and think you have a good point!! Really?
He has been on BBC for all my life and made so many interesting programs for so long. They are the best they are also very very well resourced when we see size of his crew. No body makes better
You point to last years Netflix and think you have a good point!! Really?
Being happy to pay the license fee for “David Attenborough alone” would make sense if it gave you exclusive rights to see him first on the BBC, but their annual tax of £3.5 billion doesn’t even give you that. Once David Attenborough goes, what can the BBC offer that makes it compelling viewing?
As to David Attenborough’s crew, you might be interested to have a read of “Journeys in the Wild: The Secret Life of a Cameraman” by Gavin Thurston. David Attenborough wrote the Forward and features in it heavily, and there are many anecdotes from Mr Thurston about what a kind, generous, humorous and knowledgeable man David Attenborough is. That this is true I have little doubt. However the reason I read it, and what I found interesting, was the months of work and meticulous preparation that goes in from the cameramen in preparing all those shots that we see in the films. The crew is perhaps not as small as you might think, and David Attenborough is on-site for a fraction of the time the program itself takes to record. None of this is said to undermine David Attenborough, who is perhaps the last of the generation of great reporters and raconteurs. These days, it is all about celebrities.
I am older than you, and the BBC framed my childhood, but my personal view is that I am not prepared to subsidise the BBC today based on how they were decades ago during their glory years. If there was the possibility that they might revert back to the BBC of old, I would perhaps think differently, but sadly I see little chance of that.
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