The Ultralight seems to have mixed opinions , i want something light to carry been using a browning O/U for years & at the end of a days walking i know about it ( knees are my problem not shoulders ) the Ultralight weghs in around 6 1/2 lbs comparable to an english gun which many use on drven days , i won t be doing driven , most of will be walked up / rough shooting & using 28 - 32 gram cartridges any thing heavier isn t really necessary , also looked at Winchester Select light , Browning lite & the new Benelli , Winchesters are handy money the other two are just a little out of my budget , plus i am getting ready for a new toy