Binocular recommendations - Leica v Zeiss v Swarovski

Over the years I have built up a collection of Zeiss, Leica, Swarovski and Minox binoculars and rangefinders
My go-to pair of binoculars are currently Leica HD-B 10x42's (which have the integrated range finder), which I prefer over the Swarovski version as they have ballistics pre-programmed into them.
If you are predominantly undertaking woodland stalking I would recommend 8x magnification, but for a combination of woodland and hill then you're better off with the 10x.
 
my view...I have Leica 7-42 HD Ultravids and carry a Leica rangefinder for lowland, mainly woodland stalking. None laser finder binos have different and "better" coating for low light as no laser. Yet to find any better, with wide field of view, they are excellent in low light. Have Swaro 10-42 EL rangers for Scotland trips and sometimes for lowland if open fields and extra mag is also useful during buck season.
 
I'm looking at buying a good set of Binos, obviously the Swaros, Leica's and Zeiss are good but does anyone have an opinion on the new Kahles Helia 56 binos. Just wondering.
Thanks Cal
 
Hi

Let your eyes tell you which they/you prefer (magnifications, handling, colour renditions), and if possible, borrow the pairs (friends/acquintences?) you have narrowed down to and try them at the times/environment you will use them - all else is subjective to others.

My 'go-to' are my original 7x42SL's (Porro-type), even though I have the same in SLC and 10x42 Victory - cant get on with the SLCs and Victory too much magnification for my use (both good ideas at the time).

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I'm looking at buying a good set of Binos, obviously the Swaros, Leica's and Zeiss are good but does anyone have an opinion on the new Kahles Helia 56 binos. Just wondering.
Thanks Cal
I have a pair of unused and still boxed Zeiss Victory 10x42 that I will be advertising if you wanted to have a look through them to see if they suit your eyes, I am from North Yorkshire too.
Thanks
Dave
 
You must try before you buy, as an example I use Swarovski scopes and can not stop prattling on about them and set my sights on their binos but found my old 10x42 Geovids suited my eyes.
Pick them all up IN LOW LIGHT and see what works for you.
 
I have a pair of unused and still boxed Zeiss Victory 10x42 that I will be advertising if you wanted to have a look through them to see if they suit your eyes, I am from North Yorkshire too.
Thanks
Dave
Hi Dave, thank you very much for the offer, but after much deliberation I have decided on a Set of 8.5×42 Swarovski EL.
Cheers Callum
 
Had a pair of Swarovski and Leica at the same time. Sold the Swaro’s. For me and my eyes the Leicas are better. BUT, to throw a spanner in the works, the service from Swarovski is increadable.
 
Had a pair of Swarovski and Leica at the same time. Sold the Swaro’s. For me and my eyes the Leicas are better. BUT, to throw a spanner in the works, the service from Swarovski is increadable.
Yeah I have heard about the Swarovski service, i've decided to get some EL's from them. My Dad uses the Leica Geovid 8× 42, i've decided on 8.5×42. We have tried both in low light conditions and reckon that the Swaros are better by a knats knacker.
 
Yeah I have heard about the Swarovski service, i've decided to get some EL's from them. My Dad uses the Leica Geovid 8× 42, i've decided on 8.5×42. We have tried both in low light conditions and reckon that the Swaros are better by a knats knacker.

You won’t be disappointed matey
 
Hi all,

Still new to this game and looking to make another exciting outlandish purchase, this time some nice new binoculars.

I guess I would mostly need binos for ranges of 200m or so (still on the lookout for a regular stalking patch), but would use them for other general nature watching stuff too over potentially longer ranges and would like to get myself out in the Scottish glens at some point. I'm currently taking advice I've been given about going for a good German manufacturer and so have narrowed things down to the Leica Trinovid, Zeiss Conquest and Swarovski SLC lines but have a couple of questions:

1 - Does anyone have any particular recommendations between the three models?

2 - Should I go for 10 x magnification or 8 x magnification? I am inclined to go for the 'bigger the better' approach, but am basing this on precisely no expertise.

Finally, just to add a wildcard in here, I have seen some quite smart looking Swarovski rangefinder binoculars on a website offering interest free credit over 12 months. If I were able to push my budget that far, would anyone particularly recommend going don that route and why?

A lot of questions, hopefully get to hear some good opinions...

Andy
why all the big names there are lots of manufacturers out there that can keep up with them at a fraction of the cost vangard one best binoculars 5years on the trot 200pounds and compared to my mates high end pair at 1800 there was no diffrence in optical image
 
I think that quality top tier optics give you extra capabilities. That's to say they enable you to see something that little bit clearer, that little bit later in the evening or that little bit earlier in the day. They also have, the best ones, the Zeiss 10x42 I had an regret selling were frighteningly "spooky" at this, to almost see through cover.

But it's like cars. As all I ever do is drive around town for the shopping, make two or three motorway journeys every month and never go off the beaten track then my Mazda 2 does all I need. I don't need off road capability, I don't need to drive at 100 mph, I don't need to tow a trailer. So if I had a more expensive vehicle I be wasting that capability.

It's nice to have. But if you don't need it be honest. Your are paying for the pleasure of owning something that's just, weel, "nice". For the joy of it the self indulgence of it. There's nothing wrong with that. But for most of us, me also, if I'm honest I'd get by perfectly well with second tier optics and never feel that I was lacking anything....save a "nice" name!
 
I have used all three makes. I currently use Leica rangefinding binos. Gregor Macleod in Tain is who we deal with. I had a problem with the Swaor's where the neck strap attaches, it actually snapped. A pair of Leica had a problem with one side fogging up. Both of these were replaced without any hassle whatsoever. The idea of try before you buy is good, you need to adjust them to suit your eyes when you do though. Good luck with your choice
 
Try before you buy! There is remarkably quite a variation in how these things are put together even though our two eyes are pretty much laid out he same on all of us. But some may prefer how the eyepeices "fit" us with Leica, others on Zeiss, others with Swaro. Cleyspy at Cley in Norfolk has a six hundred yards back garden so you can try ALL of those makes and many others plus used binoculars out to that long distance. Standing in the middle of Mount Street outside the Leica shop, or in Hall B at the NEC at the Swaro stand at the British Shooting Show will only give you a limited distance to view. Other vendors, however such as Garlands may be based in the countryside (like Cleyspy) and again have a long back garden!

Also some binoculars will focus down very close others not so close. On my old Leica 7x42 BA Trinovid they wouldn't focus down as near as my son's Leica 7x42 Ultravid HD. Yet that's sixteen feet close in vs ten feet which only for watching butterflies might be relevant? For must users including myself it wasn't.

Bigger isn't better. It's just offering something that may be useful or may not be useful. The lower the magnification the wider the field of view and, more importantly, the longer in distance the depth of field. That's say that with 7x magnification what's in front of what I want to INITIALLY examine and what's behind it will be in focus to a further distance in front and behind that with 10x magnification. That can be important in helping you assess what you then decide to do next.

Personally? As I've posted elsewhere I much prefer 7x but only because nobody in quality stuff makes 6x! Only Leica today of the German makers makes a company 7x42 which is something offered neither by Zeiss nor by Swarovski.

Last but not least...if relevant...check the waterproof quality of each maker's product, its spares and repairs back up and, finally, its weight and general "handiness". I loved my Leica 7x42 Trinovid BA but they weighed much more at 890 grams than do my son's 770 grams Leica 7x42 Ultravid HD. Optically though you'd be hard put to tell them apart in normal use.

There's an America website called "AllBinos" - www.allbinos.com - just select REVIEWS that has a easy multichoice drop down review facility of two hundred binoculars for an easy to find way to check the technical specification. Or you can cheat that review box by entering, say, Leica 7x42 Trinovid BA allbinos in Google and it'll bring up ALL the AllBinos review facility that way.

Trying before buying is an excellent idea, but you need to be looking through them at dusk, e.g. my Steiner binoculars & S&B scope both work brilliantly in daylight but at dusk I get about 20 minutes more out of the scope.
 
Trying before buying is an excellent idea, but you need to be looking through them at dusk, e.g. my Steiner binoculars & S&B scope both work brilliantly in daylight but at dusk I get about 20 minutes more out of the scope.

I would say after that remark that you have possibly got the lower order Steiners as their top of the range models (exy baastards too) can hold their own with Swarovski bino`s.
There are entry level Steiners and then there are fantastic Steiners.
 
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