Blasers, owner experience?

[The Singing Stalker]

Truly Sorry to Hijack your thread... but desperate times calls for desperate measures.... Sorry again.... I'm flying to Africa on the 17th June and blaser barrel waiting times are like 4months so desperate to find out if anyone can help...


Does anyone have a Blaser 375 H&H standard Open Sight/Iron Sight (17mm barrel) for sale??

many thanks

Talk to this man. DMC Custom Cartridges Home Page. If he doesn't have one he may well know where there is one.

 

[Asifloveshunting]

thanks

 

[Chasey]

Most accurate rifle I have owned.
I have an R8 pro, once I had developed the round, 8 shots all within 3/4” at 100 yds. Basically a ragged hole.
What more can you ask for.

thats a 19mm group? My Sako 75 is better than that and my Tika T3 is as good, My Sako 595 22.250 is the most accurate i own and will reliably put three rounds in a 10mm group

And i say that as someone just about to buy a Blaser

My reason is for gun storage (multiple barrels) the balance of the rifle and the compact design all available in LH unlike some of my preferred options.

I hardly ever use my 308 so having one rifle (243) one scope (Z6i BT for multiple zeros) & two or more barrels, is a nice idea for me

I may go 22/250 as well and sell that

But I don't believe for one min its any more accurate than my Sako or Tikka

 

[SDC7x57]

Had an R93 for many years in .375 H&H, with a spare barrel in 7mm Rem Mag. The .375 handled cape buffalo with no issue, and the 7mm took care of all the plains game. Both barrels were fitted with muzzle brakes. Both calibres were very accurate and sweet to shoot. Only reason I don't still have them is that a gentleman offered me silly money for them.....

 

[mchughcb]

thats a 19mm group? My Sako 75 is better than that and my Tika T3 is as good, My Sako 595 22.250 is the most accurate i own and will reliably put three rounds in a 10mm group

And i say that as someone just about to buy a Blaser

My reason is for gun storage (multiple barrels) the balance of the rifle and the compact design all available in LH unlike some of my preferred options.

I hardly ever use my 308 so having one rifle (243) one scope (Z6i BT for multiple zeros) & two or more barrels, is a nice idea for me

I may go 22/250 as well and sell that

But I don't believe for one min its any more accurate than my Sako or Tikka

Try taking your barrel out and your scope off first and I'm sure you'll struggle.

 

[Alantoo]

thats a 19mm group? My Sako 75 is better than that and my Tika T3 is as good, My Sako 595 22.250 is the most accurate i own and will reliably put three rounds in a 10mm group

And i say that as someone just about to buy a Blaser

My reason is for gun storage (multiple barrels) the balance of the rifle and the compact design all available in LH unlike some of my preferred options.

I hardly ever use my 308 so having one rifle (243) one scope (Z6i BT for multiple zeros) & two or more barrels, is a nice idea for me

I may go 22/250 as well and sell that

But I don't believe for one min its any more accurate than my Sako or Tikka

Who can say when only specifying a 3 shot group?

3 rounds in 10mm statistically adjusted indicates a 0.456 MOA rifle
8 rounds in 19mm statistically adjusted indicates a 0.54 MOA rifle

according to...

http://www.the-long-family.com/Group size statistical analysis.pdf

But a better comparison of accuracy would be 3 x 10 round groups...

The Trouble With 3-Shot Groups - AR15.COM

FWIW, between us, me and my .308 R8 have managed a few sub 1/2 MOA 5 shot groups and a number of sub-MOA 5 shot groups...but also some over 2" (with PPU FMJ)

Most of my 5 round groups over 1" include a sub 1/2" group of 3...

It is just a standard hunting rifle barrel and over 800 odd rounds (mainly load development) the 5 shot groups average around an inch which according to the correction factor in the http://www.the-long-family.com/Group size statistical analysis.pdf that means we are sub 0.876 MOA


It will be interesting to see how you get on with your Blaser, and I hope it will not be any less accurate than your Sakos.

Alan

 

[mchughcb]

A few high end blasers

You won't get much change out of 18K pounds for this F3 or 5.5K for this Luxus BBF97

 

[timbrayford]

I'll gladly share my experience.
I disliked my Blaser so much that I never shot it. I even went as far as never purchasing it in the first place. Hell. I didn't even do a google search to find a dealer to not purchase the gun that I won't shoot from.
...And that's all I'll say on the subject . ~Muir

Funnily enough that's exactly how I feel about American made guns....especially the horrid Remington 597 that I owned from new.

 

[User00033]

Funnily enough that's exactly how I feel about American made guns....especially the horrid Remington 597 that I owned from new.

I’ve got one of those! With a full length suppressed barrel. Great little gun. Very accurate for a semi auto .22LR.

mchughcb... no offense intended here... but man its painful watching you reloading the single shot when shooting at running foxes. Surely there are better rifles for that application, a lightweight .22cal bolt gun would be much faster and you be able to stay on the target when cycling.

 

[mchughcb]

I’ve got one of those! With a full length suppressed barrel. Great little gun. Very accurate for a semi auto .22LR.

mchughcb... no offense intended here... but man its painful watching you reloading the single shot when shooting at running foxes. Surely there are better rifles for that application, a lightweight .22cal bolt gun would be much faster and you be able to stay on the target when cycling.

No offense taken. Club rules no rifles.

 

[Chasey]

Try taking your barrel out and your scope off first and I'm sure you'll struggle.

Why on earth would i want or need to do that on my deer rifles ?????

BUT I have QDs on my Sako 595 so i swap between night vision and day scope all the time and it stays spot on zero

 

[Chasey]

Who can say when only specifying a 3 shot group?

3 rounds in 10mm statistically adjusted indicates a 0.456 MOA rifle
8 rounds in 19mm statistically adjusted indicates a 0.54 MOA rifle

according to...

http://www.the-long-family.com/Group size statistical analysis.pdf

But a better comparison of accuracy would be 3 x 10 round groups...

The Trouble With 3-Shot Groups - AR15.COM

FWIW, between us, me and my .308 R8 have managed a few sub 1/2 MOA 5 shot groups and a number of sub-MOA 5 shot groups...but also some over 2" (with PPU FMJ)

Most of my 5 round groups over 1" include a sub 1/2" group of 3...

It is just a standard hunting rifle barrel and over 800 odd rounds (mainly load development) the 5 shot groups average around an inch which according to the correction factor in the http://www.the-long-family.com/Group size statistical analysis.pdf that means we are sub 0.876 MOA


It will be interesting to see how you get on with your Blaser, and I hope it will not be any less accurate than your Sakos.

Alan

Alan ill happily do a 10 shot group but I don't think they are representative of stalking level requirements

The argument you have posted is only relevant if you do a half dozen 3 shot groups and claim the best as being representative.

You have a four target board and do four sub MOA three shot groups its just as representative

Diferance is we use light weight barrels so we need to rest the gun in between groups to regulate barrel temp

I personally find my first cold barrel shot to be the one i zero too for hunting. The next two being close just tells me the first wasnt a flier

Why three shot groups?

The untrained shooter will not be able to maintain discipline and concentration levels to get off more than three rounds. Breathing will start to go to pot, eyes will squint, muscles will cramp up and it will start to go wrong. Worse you will snatch at shots.

Target shooters train for this. Hunters dont

 

[Jagare]

Most accurate rifle I have owned.
I have an R8 pro, once I had developed the round, 8 shots all within 3/4” at 100 yds. Basically a ragged hole.
What more can you ask for.

Seems like you have got your Blaser and home loads shooting good. Mind you if you were a willy waver you would shoot a Sako and shoot a tighter group. Not that it has any relevence to the thread .
I.ve shot Blaser Rifles and looked at them closely and i must say I can't see anything wrong with them. Sadly Blasers just don't ring my bell or make me in the slightest way moist. So I'll stick with my Heym, Mauser , Merkel rifles for now.

 

[mchughcb]

Why on earth would i want or need to do that on my deer rifles ?????

BUT I have QDs on my Sako 595 so i swap between night vision and day scope all the time and it stays spot on zero

Because maybe you use public transport to get to your hunting grounds or you fly there. For me lugging a big case is a right PITA.

Everyone of my rifles is a takedown. Imagine if your shotgun wasn't takedown what a PITA that would be.

 

[Alantoo]

Alan ill happily do a 10 shot group but I don't think they are representative of stalking level requirements

The argument you have posted is only relevant if you do a half dozen 3 shot groups and claim the best as being representative.

You have a four target board and do four sub MOA three shot groups its just as representative

Diferance is we use light weight barrels so we need to rest the gun in between groups to regulate barrel temp

I personally find my first cold barrel shot to be the one i zero too for hunting. The next two being close just tells me the first wasnt a flier

Why three shot groups?

The untrained shooter will not be able to maintain discipline and concentration levels to get off more than three rounds. Breathing will start to go to pot, eyes will squint, muscles will cramp up and it will start to go wrong. Worse you will snatch at shots.

Target shooters train for this. Hunters dont

It wasn't an argument! I was just sharing interesting articles about gauging accuracy.

I do agree with the difference between hunting and target shooting requirements, but to be fair your initial post made no mention of that. As a hunter the group I am most pleased with and reassured by, is the group of 5 cold barrel shots taken off quad sticks over 5 consecutive days...it is by no means the tightest I have shot, almost double in fact.

I was simply responding to your...my Sakos are better than that...but then justifying it by only quoting a three shot group size.

thats a 19mm group? My Sako 75 is better than that and my Tika T3 is as good, My Sako 595 22.250 is the most accurate i own and will reliably put three rounds in a 10mm group

Grant.N's 8 shot group is obviously more indicative of the accuracy of barrel, ammunition and shooter skills than a 3 shot one. However far apart in time the shots were taken...I did not ignore the fact that you said reliably so I realise you were quoting from a wider range than just one group...but as I said I have many sub 1/2" group 3 shot clusters within my 1"+ five shot groups...they are very unforgiving.

I am sure that ammunition and shooter have a lot more bearing on group size than rifle brand so I was not being argumentative, or pro Blaser, or anti Sako (I love my Finnfire)...just pro gauging accuracy from a wider data set.

Alan

 

[mchughcb]

This forum equates blaser to R93 or R8.

The reality is the best blaser stalking rifle is the K95, allround hunting BBF97 and shotgun is the F3.

I think we need to forget about the straight pull and focus ob the bigger issue.

 

[Lateral]

How many people who have bought Blaser straightpulls still use and are happy with them? I think most probably have had turnbolts and have "upgraded". Anyone "downgraded" after a period of use?
I am sitting on the fence, I have nothing against them. All of them that I have seen or shot have shot well. Just beginning to get an R93 itch that may be scratched in time.........

This forum equates blaser to R93 or R8.

The reality is the best blaser stalking rifle is the K95, allround hunting BBF97 and shotgun is the F3.

I think we need to forget about the straight pull and focus ob the bigger issue.

Your reality, or not, it's not what the OP asked about, and as good as the K95, BBF97, and F3 may be, they become a mute point !

 

[9.3x64]

This forum equates blaser to R93 or R8.

The reality is the best blaser stalking rifle is the K95, allround hunting BBF97 and shotgun is the F3.

I think we need to forget about the straight pull and focus ob the bigger issue.

Yep, spot on.
But don't forget the BD14...

 

[mchughcb]

Well that is a rather exclusive club.

 

[mchughcb]

Your reality, or not, it's not what the OP asked about, and as good as the K95, BBF97, and F3 may be, they become a mute point !

Well ok. Back to your normal viewing pleasure it is.