Blasers, owner experience?

How many people who have bought Blaser straightpulls still use and are happy with them? I think most probably have had turnbolts and have "upgraded". Anyone "downgraded" after a period of use?
I am sitting on the fence, I have nothing against them. All of them that I have seen or shot have shot well. Just beginning to get an R93 itch that may be scratched in time.........
I have an R8 in 30-06, lovely 'pointable' rifle, no moderator fitted, but that's just me, very accurate but no more so than my .243 Sako 75, the safety took a bit of getting used to but it comes as second nature these days.
Great to travel with as it breaks down, and when you put it all back together it is bang on zero, I would itch the scratch and get a Blaser
Cheers
Richard
 
Well ok. Back to your normal viewing pleasure it is.

Don't get me wrong, I love the K95, and look forward to shooting one, should Blaser ever fulfill the order I placed ! I would also love a BBF97, and did consider one instead of the K95, but the K95 won out, easily ! If a BBF97 comes up in the right calibre, I may well be tempted.
 
I've had a couple of R8s and now an R8 pro success in 6.5x55 & 300wtby... wouldn't have anything else!

As for having to slam the bolt home to get a positive lock up... not true.. I have experimented with this on the range and as long as the bolt handle is pushed all the way forward it can be done as slowly and as quietly as you like with no issues or misfires. It all boils down to familiarity and knowing when it is fully engaged and when it is not!

Agree in principle, but getting bolt closure wrong is definitely something even the professionals can get wrong on the R8 on occasion. So it is worth flagging as something about which to be aware. Usefully, here is an example of the highly proficient Thomas Haugland experiencing an incomplete R8 bolt lock up. Fast forward to minute 4:19 if you do not want to watch all:
 
Bought one thinking it would be a an upgrade to my normal CZ or Browning.
Loved the way it shot, but hated everything else, cheap plastic stock, tiny, cheap and nasty cast bits everywhere, fiddly
magazine, far too long in the pull, with a stock that is almost impossible to shorten.
Sold very quickly and upgraded to a CZ, lesson learned.

Neil.
 
This forum equates blaser to R93 or R8.

The reality is the best blaser stalking rifle is the K95, allround hunting BBF97 and shotgun is the F3.

I think we need to forget about the straight pull and focus ob the bigger issue.


The K95 is a single shot rifle so obviously far from ideal for deer stalking surely?

At least you can argue with a R93 or R8 you can reload quicker than a bolt action.
 
Bought one thinking it would be a an upgrade to my normal CZ or Browning.
Loved the way it shot, but hated everything else, cheap plastic stock, tiny, cheap and nasty cast bits everywhere, fiddly
magazine, far too long in the pull, with a stock that is almost impossible to shorten.
Sold very quickly and upgraded to a CZ, lesson learned.

Neil.

I have rifles from several makers. Love them all. Regardless of the requirement for R8 bolt closure precision, I would never part with my Blasers! Accurate beyond my ability, compact, modular, easy maintenance, brilliant safety design. My R8 6.5x55mm is my go to UK deer stalking rifle and has never let me down.
 
Bought one thinking it would be a an upgrade to my normal CZ or Browning.
Loved the way it shot, but hated everything else, cheap plastic stock, tiny, cheap and nasty cast bits everywhere, fiddly
magazine, far too long in the pull, with a stock that is almost impossible to shorten.
Sold very quickly and upgraded to a CZ, lesson learned.

Neil.

You could have ordered one with a nice wooden stock if you wanted wood?
 
I find it interesting that you were really unimpressed with the stock and overall quality.

(Not a criticism btw!)

As some people may remember from a previous post of mine, I was looking for a synthetic stocked rifle and had a specific ‘feel’ in mind that I was hoping for. I was adamantly against anything Blaser as I had a preconception of them being cheap and plasticky so I centred my search around various other makes and models.

In the end nothing felt like I’d hoped so I had a look at an R8 just to see what people saw in them.... the rest is history. I really liked the feel and balance of the rifle and, despite preferring a good bit of timber as a rule and not being a huge fan of plastic, I think it’s unbeatable as a tool that I don’t have to think to much about getting scratched etc. I also quite like the fact that it can clearly be made safe with the concept of the removable trigger unit/magazine. Basically, everything I thought I’d hate I was wrong about and I barely use anything else now!

I just find it interesting what different people look for and do and don’t like in their rifles. Horses for courses I suppose!

5pointer.
 
Blaser R93 243 308 6.5 55 Synthetic Pro stock

2018-08-06 17.57.48 by markchase8, on Flickr


Looks: 7:10

I think it looks nice possibly nicer than the Professional Success id actualy prefer but I don't think any one would look at it lustfully or think it was worth a lot of money if they didn't know what it was. Its actualy fairly understated in the sensible Pro form


Feel / Ergonomics 7:10

OK tough one to score because it is very nicely balanced even with my large over barrelled mod. The feel and grips are tactile and good quality and the straight pull bolt action is lovely if occasionally concerning. What reely lets it down is the crappy little mag inserts which look like they were made at Kmart and will fall apart at any second. My ones work OK but the look to have too many silly fiddly bits which could / will break

Loading them is pretty crap compared to the slick crisp feel of my Sako 75 III and the simplicity of its lovely SS mag. Unloading is a PITA but then I did buy a cheaper 93 and I could have gone R8 with the trigger unit mag?

Assembling the rifle with the silly mag insert is bit of a let down as well. Disassembling is a bit of a pain with the mag having to be depressed to let the slide go back then theres a release for the bolt and slide its self

The long slide arms on the R93 bolt look fragile and I fear dropping the bolt in case I bend or snap one. Maybe they are bullet proof but they do not inspire confidence

The bolt its self doesent always load cleanly. I have had several first round feeding errors with factory and home loads. More alarmingly I have opened the bolt and thought, that's odd where's the round? and its still in the chamber. Closing and opening again has picked up the round every time. Could be technique but if you need a special technique IMHO its designed wrong.

Which brings me to the best and worst feature of the Blaser.

The safety and trigger.

The safety is too slow to disengage when pushed for time. It defo does take some technique and practice and its more noisy than my Sako. Because its actualy cocking and de cocking the rifle the movement is very stiff. Strong thumbs are required.

BUT what a safety. It reely is a safe rifle once the Blaser is safety on (or rather de cocked) and thank god for that as I wouldn't want to be loading and unloading to climb into the high seat.

The trigger on the other hand needed no adjustment and was just perfect for me. Excellent feel crisp break and just enough weight to let you know your squeezing it.

The bl##dy old fashioned strap mounts drive me nuts. Id much prefer modern quick release swivels.

Weight wise its OK. Obviously not as good as the T3 I had before but about the same as my Sako 75 SS Recoil is tolerable even on the 308 which does kick a bit on the T3 without a mod.

I reely love the scope mount system Which would be better enhanced with a rail mounted scope

I reely love the fact it fits all James bond like in my Peli case for transport but TBH I have to assemble it at home before morning stalks as you really don't want to be attempting it in the dark

In use I find the mainly flat base to the for end ideal for resting on my high seat shooting rails. The length of pull on the stock is good for me but I note how easily spacers could be added.

I very much like the true ambidextrous nature of the stock & safety

Accuracy 8/10 Its OK. Its defiantly not as good as my 243 in outright performance but then my loads were developed for the Sako and the Sako is much heavier (so more stable in use) in its laminate stock and the ergonomics of the stock with adjustable comb and thumbhole, make it a proper target shooting dream.

Both would put any deer on the ground with a head shot out to 150m and that's all I need.

I have a 22/250 Sako 595 that is just incredible at putting Winchester CXRs in touching groups at 100m. That's the only rifel I have ever shot which was just instantaneously amazing when I shot it. Its heavy barrelled so weighs a ton and its just so repeatable on shots it amazing. But this has a lot to do with the calibre I feel.

Sako 75 243 home load 100m 6 shots with three shot reload off the bonnet of my car on a bipod

20180703_172918 by markchase8, on Flickr

Blaser 243 nine shots I think? The top left shot was a sighter and I adjusted windage. Top right shot I just pulled


20180703_174318 by markchase8, on Flickr



I bought the R93 so I could reduce my gun cabinet size. Plan is to have the 243 /308 / 22.250 barrels and sell my other rifles (308 sold already) The peli case also made it easier if I wanted to take them to Turkey with me. In this respect the job is done however I am feeling pangs of regret at the though of selling my Sako 75. I think to be honest I will end up keeping the 75 but ill sell my 22/250 mind you even that gives me pause as its so damed spot on.

The down side to my plan is the scope settings.

I have zeroed so far for 243 bang on zero

308 125 g is a quite incredible 23 clicks of elevation and six clicks right. The 6.5 55 120g is 19 clicks of elevation and 3 right.

Sadly the Blasser didn't like my 308s at all and I coulden't get a decent group

Left hand was a sighter and the three were the attempt at a group but this 1.5" was about the best I got.

20180703_182050 by markchase8, on Flickr



Soooooo in conclusion

Is the Blaser worth the hype?


Errrrr not realy no BUT if you want a modular rifle and you want QD scopes and you want the speed of a straight pull....its a must have.


If you don't then honestly the Sako 75 is easier to live with and shoots just as well and is available in hard wearing SS synthetic.

2016-03-28 16.23.53 by markchase8, on Flickr
 
Chasey should have just bought an R8 then you wouldn't have had a problem grouping ;)

My R8 is blaser accurate I can zero with my 22.250 change the barrel to a .270 use the same scope and its near enough absolutely bang on which is incredible for hunting purposes. I mean you wouldn't shoot it over 500 yards but I suspect for most if like me 250 yards is probably the max range.

One thing which is really annoying though and is as much user error as anything is the double action of the bolt which is why I was told to always shut it hard to engage the cocking leaver. Reality is you can close it quietly then push it again to make it cocked but after years of turn bolts im not ashamed to say its cost me three deer so for with the dreaded click lol.
 
Chasey, did you develop the loads with the Sako? And then tries them in the Blaser...?


Yes as stated in the write up

I tried a bout six different Varget loads in the Sako and this one 70g BT over 41g of Varget worked best which was ironically exactly what the Nosler Load data suggested.

I have about 40 rounds left made up and they are defo good enough through the Blasa but I will have a fiddle with loads later.

The 308 is running 47grains of N140 over a 125grain BT head. These worked very well in my T3 but the Blaser didn't like them. I don't actualy use this load any more as I prefer the 243 for head shots and I use Sako 150gHammer Head for the 308. The Blasser didn't seem to like them much either but 1.5-2" is plenty good enough for a chest shot

I am going to try some 150 grain heads over 42.5 grains of N140 next
 
Chasey should have just bought an R8 then you wouldn't have had a problem grouping ;)

My R8 is blaser accurate I can zero with my 22.250 change the barrel to a .270 use the same scope and its near enough absolutely bang on which is incredible for hunting purposes. I mean you wouldn't shoot it over 500 yards but I suspect for most if like me 250 yards is probably the max range.

One thing which is really annoying though and is as much user error as anything is the double action of the bolt which is why I was told to always shut it hard to engage the cocking leaver. Reality is you can close it quietly then push it again to make it cocked but after years of turn bolts im not ashamed to say its cost me three deer so for with the dreaded click lol.


Yes I knew if id spent another £2000 my groupings would be better :D

TBH I wanted a R8 Pro success but just couldn't face £3650 for a LH one with a mod and scope mount. Ill also admit to keeping a casual eye out for rocking horse poo SH ones in LH


TBH my 6.5 55 is four clicks away from my 308 so I could just run those two rounds but all my reloading kit is 243.

I recently asked for brass in 6.5 55 and reloading dies. I got zero response. which suggst I am better off sticking to easy access 243.

Its not such a drama with the Swaro Z6i BT though because all I have to do is turn it to the red dot on the BT and its bang on for 308
 
Yes as stated in the write up

I tried a bout six different Varget loads in the Sako and this one 70g BT over 41g of Varget worked best which was ironically exactly what the Nosler Load data suggested.

I have about 40 rounds left made up and they are defo good enough through the Blasa but I will have a fiddle with loads later.

The 308 is running 47grains of N140 over a 125grain BT head. These worked very well in my T3 but the Blaser didn't like them. I don't actualy use this load any more as I prefer the 243 for head shots and I use Sako 150gHammer Head for the 308. The Blasser didn't seem to like them much either but 1.5-2" is plenty good enough for a chest shot

I am going to try some 150 grain heads over 42.5 grains of N140 next

I had similar results in my R93 .308 when using 125gr Hornady SST’s. I switched to Sierra 165gr soft point’s and the accuracy is great.

I am using a nosler 120gr ballistic tip in my 7X64 for head shots as my .243 barrel has a NV sight on. I was worried I would have similar results to the .308 and light bullets but was pleasantly surprised to find Accuracy was well under and inch.
 
Yes I knew if id spent another £2000 my groupings would be better :D

TBH I wanted a R8 Pro success but just couldn't face £3650 for a LH one with a mod and scope mount. Ill also admit to keeping a casual eye out for rocking horse poo SH ones in LH


TBH my 6.5 55 is four clicks away from my 308 so I could just run those two rounds but all my reloading kit is 243.

I recently asked for brass in 6.5 55 and reloading dies. I got zero response. which suggst I am better off sticking to easy access 243.

Its not such a drama with the Swaro Z6i BT though because all I have to do is turn it to the red dot on the BT and its bang on for 308

Yes the asking price is non palatable I have a 6.5 CM and thats a bitch to find the rounds for. Still my point about Blasers being a great piece of kit is what I was trying to make. Interestingly my Howa which cost roughly 1/6th the price of the new R8 would have resulted in 6 more dead deer hahaha.
 
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