Boretch eliminator does nothing

[Ratsbadboy]

It's not my strongest either but to me this is best suggestion so far. Tried with Robla solo today and it doesn't touch it either

I don't know what the blue is either, but can only guess it's copper fouling that's being effected but 'something' which is turning it blue. If it was my gun I'd give it 10-15 strokes of KG2 on a nylon brush.

 

[Flash42]

Boretech eliminator has worked wonders for me, along side iosso paste on a nylon brush.
2 x soaked patches, then let sit for 10 mins. Then a good scrubbing with bronze brush, then patch out and run the borescope through to see how it's looking. Then run another wet patch through followed by a nylon brush with iosso paste. 10 long strokes, followed by 10 short strokes in the first half of the rifling. Then wet patch, soak and bronze brush followed by patching out and that normally gets it back to full bare metal.

 

[Dave_45]

Thorro clean is pretty good

 

[paul o']

Used it since it came out and moved from KG
I use copper bullets , so I plug the barrel, place it in a clamp, muzzle down into a pot to keep the plug tight and fill up the barrel, then walk away for a few hrs or returning empty it out and the liquid is green after going in clear.
Few patch pushes happydays.
Same with FMJ but other product.

 

[shoppe]

On my f class rifle,( 308) eliminator wil not clean it( benchmark barrel.) I use boretech carbon remover followed by copper remover.
My ar15 sidepull with sassen cut barrel, the eliminator is fine?? With both rifles the bullets are hiking on, 80.5 bergers in the 223, and 176 Atips in the 308. I use a bore scope to check.
I know a few fellow shooters have went back to separate carbon remover and copper remover ( both boretech)

 

[Klenchblaize]

Don't fooook about:

K

 

[Hunter 6.5]

On my f class rifle,( 308) eliminator wil not clean it( benchmark barrel.) I use boretech carbon remover followed by copper remover.
My ar15 sidepull with sassen cut barrel, the eliminator is fine?? With both rifles the bullets are hiking on, 80.5 bergers in the 223, and 176 Atips in the 308. I use a bore scope to check.
I know a few fellow shooters have went back to separate carbon remover and copper remover ( both boretech)

Since then I did the same. Bought them separately and they work fine

 

[Ronin]

Since then I did the same. Bought them separately and they work fine

Which is the most effective way of using Boretech

 

[Hunter 6.5]

Which is the most effective way of using Boretech

Yeah, can't complain with the results. I've actually followed your advice from the beginning of this thread. Thanks

 

[Ronin]

Glad to have helped

 

[Grannysmith]

I had my 220 swift rebarreled and as its a fast round wanted to get the right clean up regime and asked guy who made the barrel what to do.
He gave me bortech eliminator with advice to follow the instructions on the bottle.
It seems that the first cleaning takes out the soot and then the second takes out.the copper.
The barrel shines like a mirror and shoots 15mm groups all day
Hope this helps.
What he did say was to only push nylon brush and patches one way breech to muzzle and never scrub back and forth.

 

[gixer1]

I had my 220 swift rebarreled and as its a fast round wanted to get the right clean up regime and asked guy who made the barrel what to do.
He gave me bortech eliminator with advice to follow the instructions on the bottle.
It seems that the first cleaning takes out the soot and then the second takes out.the copper.
The barrel shines like a mirror and shoots 15mm groups all day
Hope this helps.
What he did say was to only push nylon brush and patches one way breech to muzzle and never scrub back and forth.

I wonder why only in one direction? I scrub the crap out of mine in both directions, usually 30-40 “ins and outs” with the nylon brush, I can’t see how nylon can hurt that badly at 1ft/sec compared to a bullet at 2-3000ft/sec!

Regards,
Gixer

 

[Klenchblaize]

I wonder why only in one direction? I scrub the crap out of mine in both directions, usually 30-40 “ins and outs” with the nylon brush, I can’t see how nylon can hurt that badly at 1ft/sec compared to a bullet at 2-3000ft/sec!

Regards,
Gixer

I think it may relate to possible compromise of the crown on the return pass if using a steel cored brush. This assumes the brush exits the barrel and then re-enters off-centre.

Could well be wrong though.

K

 

[shoppe]

I only push anything down the barrel same direction as the bullet. Always have and always will. Push patch or brush through the barrel,remove used patch and take off the alloy tip( or brush) and pull back cleaning rod.yes, it takes much longer but its also giving a wee bit of extra soak time for the solvent before the next push through.
The reason I do it,is to stop any potential damage to the crown so leaving the crown edge " sharp" .
This is the last bit of the rifle to influence the path of the bullet.
It can't do any harm( in my mind) doing it this way. It does take that bit longer to do.
However ,I know plenty of other very good shooters and a local well respected gunsmith who scrubs ( both directions ) the hell out of a problem barrel and all is fine.
The other reason why i do it is, its maybe my OCD kicking in.
OLD #UNT DISEASE.!
Cheers
Shoppe

 

[bluesako]

View attachment 395049this is what i use its awsome stuf but dont sniff it

 

[Grannysmith]

I wonder why only in one direction? I scrub the crap out of mine in both directions, usually 30-40 “ins and outs” with the nylon brush, I can’t see how nylon can hurt that badly at 1ft/sec compared to a bullet at 2-3000ft/sec!

Regards,
Gixer

Nor me but mostly take an experts advice because like manuel
I KNOW NOTHING

 

[MarinePMI]

I wonder why only in one direction? I scrub the crap out of mine in both directions, usually 30-40 “ins and outs” with the nylon brush, I can’t see how nylon can hurt that badly at 1ft/sec compared to a bullet at 2-3000ft/sec!

Regards,
Gixer

My guess is they don't want a shooter to pull the cleaner back into the action. Many of them will cause plastic parts to get brittle, or mar the finish on a wooden stock.

While I always push the patch out in one direction (breech to muzzle) the brush I run back and forth, but never let it exit the muzzle or freebore. I haven't had any issues with that, but many of my rifles are in chassis' of some form or another.

 

[gixer1]

My guess is they don't want a shooter to pull the cleaner back into the action. Many of them will cause plastic parts to get brittle, or mar the finish on a wooden stock.

While I always push the patch out in one direction (breech to muzzle) the brush I run back and forth, but never let it exit the muzzle or freebore. I haven't had any issues with that, but many of my rifles are in chassis' of some form or another.

I do the same with patches, but the brush gets pushed out and pulled back through - with the nylon brush I have you can’t change direction once you push it in one way…I tried and ripped the thread off one!

 

[Yorkie]

View attachment 395049this is what i use its awsome stuf but dont sniff it

I once watched a guy at Minsterly Ranges pick up a bottle of someones Montana xtreme copper killer, and having noticed it does have a bit of an odour proceeded to have a proper old sniff of the bottle, a real lung full. I managed to catch him as he fell backwards, coughing and eyes streaming.

It is fantastic for removing copper and, according to the manufacturer, is totally barrel safe and will not etch. The ordinary Montana xtreme barrel solvent is first class, i use nothing else. I put a squirt of Kroil in it. Don't ask me why, too many American forums been read i suppose.

 

[bluesako]

I once watched a guy at Minsterly Ranges pick up a bottle of someones Montana xtreme copper killer, and having noticed it does have a bit of an odour proceeded to have a proper old sniff of the bottle, a real lung full. I managed to catch him as he fell backwards, coughing and eyes streaming.

It is fantastic for removing copper and, according to the manufacturer, is totally barrel safe and will not etch. The ordinary Montana xtreme barrel solvent is first class, i use nothing else. I put a squirt of Kroil in it. Don't ask me why, too many American forums been read i suppose.

it certainly is awsome stuff, i dont know why more shooters dont use it, ive used it for years and it clears sinus problems