Bullet Drop Very Different To Calculator

Could you explain to me the benefits though?

As far as I see it I’d want to verify the drop anyway.
Because unless you’re going to do a drop every distance you are likely to shoot in day 25 yard increments at some point you’ll have to do a range in between your tested points, drop is not linear it curves so you’ll be guessing.

If you get an app you may not need a chrono as I believe some will allow you to work your velocity out from known drops. You plug in your drops at certain distances and it will work out the rest- have never done this as we have a club chrono but for the cost of an app there’s not a lot to lose .
 
I've not had access to a chronograph as yet but on my homeloads I zeroed at 100m then fired groups at 200m & 300m to true the 'estimated' speed given by the QL data from Reload Swiss.

Once I have this data trued I then confirm at 225mm 250m, 275m on steel gongs, any discrepancies are adjusted in strelok truing function which then gives the velocity.

I have found that chrono velocity can be different to what the bullet wants to tell you...and the fact that the bullet is the key object in the equation I listen to the bullets impact not chrono data.
 
Could you explain to me the benefits though?

As far as I see it I’d want to verify the drop anyway.
It all depends what you want from your experience.

If you just want a hunting load that you know will hit the target zone reliably at stalking ranges (let's be brave and mention up to 250 yards) then all you really need to know is that your load is deer legal in terms of energy and as you already have done, determine what the round is doing from your chosen zero, so nominally every 25 yards from zero to let's say 300 yards. It really doesn't need to be more complicated than that. You can do that in a 300 yard field with a backstop and a notebook.

However, a lot of folk load for accuracy, and because..... well, because we can!

I have a number of reasons to load accurate rounds, and none of them really affect what I'm doing when stalking under normal circumstances.

I'll try and explain what I mean. I shoot the same rifle at deer, foxes, paper and steel targets out to 1000 yards plus. Generally speaking I won't be shooting at deer much over 200 yards and foxes out to say 300 in the right circumstances. It's simple enough to load up a round that will do that and be consistent enough to group reliably within 1/2 to 1 MOA. Margins for error taken into account, a centre mass body shot on a fox or a broadside chest shot on a deer is pretty much taken care of from 50 to 200 yards.

BUT, this where knowing your exact MV comes into play so you can use a ballistic app to predict the round's trajectory. I like to work with a point blank range principle. Point blank is a default range where you can be sure of putting a bullet in a 4 inch circle without changing your point of aim or adjusting your crosshairs/turrets of whatever. In other words wherever you put the crosshairs, the round won't go any higher than 2 inches above the crosshairs, or any lower than 2 inches below. It's of great benefit to stalkers or fox shooters because it means that as long as you know what "too far " looks like, you simply aim and shoot. To determine what this range is, you need to know the approximate trajectory of your round for a given aim point. Yes, you can do this with the 300 yard field and notebook method, but to get the most out of the principle it would take many many rounds of practice to get it spot on.

That pointblank changes with where you zero your rifle. A round zeroed at 100 yards will drop significantly more at 200 yards than one zeroed at 50 yards, and a round zeroed at 50 yards will hit high at 100 yards. A round zeroed at 50 yards will also have a secondary zero point somewhere between 100 and 200 yards or possibly even further if you're shooting a fast flat round. This is all well and good, but you need to be able to fine tune it to make sure the round isn't striking too high at an intermediate distance between the two zeros. The principle fails if your curve is so steep that it's hitting more than say 2" above POA at 100 and the round only groups more than say 1 MOA...... you'll be shooting above the 4" circle. You can alter the behaviour of that curve by changing the zero range of your rifle. The closer you zero, the higher the round will be at 100-150 yards, the further away you zero, the greater the drop will be at 200.

Take my .308 as an example. It's zeroed at 40 yards, to give a max trajectory of 1.5MOA high at 100 and is back on zero at 180 yards. It drops 1.5 inches low at 200. The load I developed for it is pretty slow, not much more than 2400 fps, but is nice and accurate, grouping 1/2 MOA at 100 yards. It's a loopy round, but is still point and kill out to 200 yards. Zeroed at 50 yards it was only about 1/2 high at 100 and 2.5 inches low at 200. SO still point and kill, but only out to 175 yards or thereabouts.

That trajectory curve can be exploited by whichever method you use, but by far the easiest way is to input the known variables accurately into a ballistic calculator, so, bullet weight, BC, scope height, and most importantly muzzle velocity. Once you know that you can reasonably accurately predict where the best zero range is going to be for he longest usable point blank.

Using a chrono also helps to develop a load which will group accurately to start with, but that's for another time perhaps.
 
Strelok says 38 clicks down to get me from 600 yards to 300 yards. It gets me on the paper ok but in reality I need 58 clicks to get near the v bull . That's a 24 inch target barrel .308 at 2700fps 168gr matchking bullet.
 
Could you explain to me the benefits though?

As far as I see it I’d want to verify the drop anyway.
I like the idea of being able to hit targets like steel gongs (i.e.not live animals) at extended ranges first time with my hunting rifle setup which includes a tactical type scope.
So the drill is range, enter this into the app and read off the firing solution, adjust the scope and shoot. The range is unlikely to be a convenient round number.
All the variables, with the possible exception of accurate windage, are considered and the drop predicted by the app/model. The chronograph measures muzzle velocity and this won't change much from day to day notwithstanding the effect of temperature on powder performance. How the bullet slows down as a function of distance/time will strongly depend on the ambient conditions. If you tried getting app levels of predictability using drop tables you'd have to shoot at many fixed distances on many different days. But you need an accurate measurement of muzzle velocity.
CH
 
Thanks again all. I can certainly see the benefit of the chronograph now. I think because I’m more interested in hunting accuracy on deer I’m pretty happy shooting 25y increments as a test and just noting those down. The 6.5 is relatively flat anyhow and when I move to copper it looks like it’ll get flatter for the ranges I use.
Whilst I like the idea of MPBR I have turrets and prefer dialling to squeeze a bit more accuracy out of it.
 
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