C50 .. do I really need a nocpix ?

[richardoxford]

Probably done to death but I’ll ask .. I have various rifles . Do a lot of night shooting my go to for foxing is my 204 Sako stainless fluted set trigger .. .32or 40 grn v max both just kill .. shoot like a lazer. . C50 with sirus lamp .. good for 300 m enough for me at night. Got pard on me 1.7 and me 22-250 . Pulsar key 22 spotter. All works fine foxes very nervous . I am however twitching at nocpix 35 thermal .. 1900 quid sure it would do me. But do I actually need it .. or do we just like spending money on more gear .. thoughts please .. if anyone has the 35 can’t find a real world review so far .. cheers

 

[Rutland lad]

If it ain’t broke ……….

 

[jall55]

Probably done to death but I’ll ask .. I have various rifles . Do a lot of night shooting my go to for foxing is my 204 Sako stainless fluted set trigger .. .32or 40 grn v max both just kill .. shoot like a lazer. . C50 with sirus lamp .. good for 300 m enough for me at night. Got pard on me 1.7 and me 22-250 . Pulsar key 22 spotter. All works fine foxes very nervous . I am however twitching at nocpix 35 thermal .. 1900 quid sure it would do me. But do I actually need it .. or do we just like spending money on more gear .. thoughts please .. if anyone has the 35 can’t find a real world review so far .. cheers

Moving to thermal will defo help you shoot more foxes - No idea on the specific make you quote

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Are you talking about the spotter?
If you haven’t got a thermal spotter, then yes, I would recommend getting one. They are way better at picking up targets than a night vision.
I couldn’t find a riflescope at that price.
The only thing I would add is that a rangefinder is really useful. It is like a heated steering wheel on a car. You don’t need it until you get one with it, then you realise how useful it actually is.
And of course with the shooting show coming up next month, there should be more deals coming along.

 

[jall55]

Are you talking about the spotter?
If you haven’t got a thermal spotter, then yes, I would recommend getting one. They are way better at picking up targets than a night vision.
I couldn’t find a riflescope at that price.
The only thing I would add is that a rangefinder is really useful. It is like a heated steering wheel on a car. You don’t need it until you get one with it, then you realise how useful it actually is.
And of course with the shooting show coming up next month, there should be more deals coming along.

There are lots and lots of thermal scopes about now for circa 2 k

 

[Foxyboy43]

Your Pulsar Key will continue to find you foxes to shoot so “need” - nah!
“Want” however……

 

[Jeff8861]

There are advantages and I have both but mainly use the thermal.
Ground long grass reshes etc the ir bounces off so can hamper locating and getting a shot off.
Illuminator at this time on one of my perms as soon as the ir goes on the quarry is on its heels.

 

[Camdig]

For me thermal spotter and NV scope is best, the NV allows better species ID.
So answer to your question is no you don't need to spend cash on a new scope but if you want one then batter on.

 

[andy.k5]

Thermal spotter (Falcon FQ50) and NV scope scope for me (C50)

 

[JockStalk]

Thermal scope is a game changer if your ID and knowledge of ground is good.
Would recommend 50mm though.
Used thermion pop up and reliable, well within 1900 budget.

 

[richardoxford]

There are lots and lots of thermal scopes about now for circa 2 k

 

[richardoxford]

I have spotter pulsar axion 22 had it years small very tough . Very wide field of view .. was looking at nocpix 35 mm rifle scope .. £1900 .. 50mm jumps to £3000 + is it worth the extra can’t find a real world review ..

 

[richardoxford]

Thanks for comments .. like the idea of loosing the ir lamp .. simpler setup ..

 

[The Singing Stalker]

Right, if you are talking about rifle scopes…
Thing about thermal, imho, is that the devil is in the detail. One of the things is that a 50mm is better than a 35mm. Lots of other factors as well, but that is one of the basics.
I would hold off and go have a look at the show. But take into account, looking at people walking around a show, is not like identifying a fox.
There are challenges to using a thermal, many of which are overcome by time using.

A good question is, how often are you going to shoot 300 meters. I, personally, wouldn’t do it in daytime, but that’s me.
I have used thermal scopes and for me, overall an Alpex on the rifle is better when using a thermal spotter. It gives me that 100% identity comfort.
The amount of times I have thought I was looking at a fox to find out it was 2 rabbits. But that is the exception, and that is were a nightvision or expensive thermal wins.
It really is a try it and see or go out with someone who has one, the best way is to use it in the field and plenty on here are often able to assist.

 

[richardoxford]

50 is much better than 35 … price difference is quite large .. I’d still be interested to know anyone who has used the 35 nocpix

 

[Jeff8861]

50 is much better than 35 … price difference is quite large .. I’d still be interested to know anyone who has used the 35 nocpix

You will notice the difference in poor conditions. I've been out with a 35mm unit fog came down the 35 was no good. We had a 50mm with us and that kept us going if we hadn't it was a long wasted trip. With a 50mm I'd will be also be better. If you have the funds go with the 50 and the nocpix Ace H50R is a really good bit of kit.

 

[richardoxford]

Thanks .. I’ll have to wait my budget won’t stretch to that at mo .. suppose you get what you pay for .. the no pic does look stunning

 

[Blackwood Outdoors]

You will notice the difference in poor conditions. I've been out with a 35mm unit fog came down the 35 was no good. We had a 50mm with us and that kept us going if we hadn't it was a long wasted trip. With a 50mm I'd will be also be better. If you have the funds go with the 50 and the nocpix Ace H50R is a really good bit of kit.

Focal length has no relevance to performance... there both F0.9 apertures and the same netD ..

F0.9 apertures will let in the same amount of infrared to the sensor, regardless of the focal length.. apertures are a ratio.

The only performance difference between two lenses of the same aperture and different focal lengths, is that the longer focal length will have a more shallow depth of field and require more focusing at different ranges compared to a shorter focal length lens. Although both lenses will provide a different FOV

Go careful on what advice you heed..

 

[finnbear270]

Probably done to death but I’ll ask .. I have various rifles . Do a lot of night shooting my go to for foxing is my 204 Sako stainless fluted set trigger .. .32or 40 grn v max both just kill .. shoot like a lazer. . C50 with sirus lamp .. good for 300 m enough for me at night. Got pard on me 1.7 and me 22-250 . Pulsar key 22 spotter. All works fine foxes very nervous . I am however twitching at nocpix 35 thermal .. 1900 quid sure it would do me. But do I actually need it .. or do we just like spending money on more gear .. thoughts please .. if anyone has the 35 can’t find a real world review so far .. cheers

You have the beginnings of what is sounding like a case of "Magpie" syndrome

 

[Pellet Pinger]

If you’ve got a Pulsar Axion Key, my money would go on upgrading your spotter. You spend more time looking through that and you already have a scope that isn’t found wanting.