clearfell

toad

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what affect does felling have on ground. large areas of new planting and large areas of felling . i know it brings new growth but does all the work being done push the roe very far
 
What we found is if felling is on going the deer can go nocturnel.with new planting if there are woods ajacent that are well grown the deer will move in there .you will also be shooting at longer ranges as they come onto the clearfell . They will also use the drains a lot more so control your boundry's ambush them as they come and go [if you can leave the odd good buck they will help you] it then goes from stalking to pest control your only there to protect those re-planted areas you end up paying for the priviledge. Most of us do it .
 
cheers pendle . i was also wondering if anyone new at what hight the young trees needed to be before the roe feel safe to overnight in them
 
Spent most of this last weekend no more than 200 yards from a working forwarder, & whilst sitting in a Doe box on Saturday, watching a Buck & Doe for around four hours, She just would not give him up!! ...... damned clearfell was a bind, 238 yards of no mans land between us!.... went back with a 25.06 next morning, dug in @ 98 yds... no show!, Ah well!, if it was that easy, everyone would be doing it! :( :cool:
 
sounds familier finnbear of coarse they didnt show. i bet you seen some nice bucks on the way home aswell just to rub it in a bit more:-|
 
Not sure about Roe but frequently see red within 2 tree lengths whilst felling, usually stood out on the previously cut. They don't seem to be bothered by people or machines on the ground, as long as you don't try to creep up on them!
 
Hi All!
I live and work in the area which got mostly affected by the terrible storm "Kyrill" in 2007....
We got about 40 millions cubicmeters of windthrown timber all over Europe and about 17 millions cubicmeters around my homecountry....
So I definetively know just a bit about clearfell, windthrown and the new habitat growing afterwards:
We got a more than significant rise of the deer (roe) population in the year after the blast, the does gave about 2-3 kids in average (!) birth, before the storm we got 1-2 kids.
The fresh planted trees got very heavy damage by being eaten by the roe, till now you find a lot of replantations which suffer from it and wouldnt grow to a height out of reach of their mouth.... In well mananged areas we rised the cull number up to 300%.
The first years hunting was very interesting and every clearfell was almost a guarantee for some nice roes (bucks).
Its still the perfect habitat, offering shelter, cover and forage all year long, but its very hard to hunt this areas, without shooting lanes in between the replantations or even larger food plots, there is almost no chance to see deer....
In my areas its getting worse now, because of all the boar realizing these clearfells as perfect habitats, too....
So its definetively a very interesting habitat to hunt in, but its getting a difficult one by time.....
For us: No way to be efficient without dogs, to get the numbers we need to take!

... That means more driven hunts ! .....
 
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my favoutire spot is shooting over clear felled ground, great backstop lots of entry points for them, nice atsy browsing and average distance is 200-300 m for a shot
 
cheers pendle . i was also wondering if anyone new at what hight the young trees needed to be before the roe feel safe to overnight in them
every place is diffrent i have seen them lying up in trees that are about 4 to 5 foot once they lay down you can not see them they feel safe . As finn says he was not far from a forwarder i have seen roe walking past them when there working. they seem to keep out of the way when the logging wagons come in i have sat there watching roe and when these wagons come in and they run the trailers are banging all the time as they go through could be 4 or 5 wagons at a time getting the timber out up too 3 times a day but every forest or wood is diffrent
 
Hi All!I live and work in the area which got mostly affected by the terrible storm "Kyrill" in 2007....We got about 40 millions cubicmeters of windthrown timber all over Europe and about 17 millions cubicmeters around my homecountry....So I definetively know just a bit about clearfell, windthrown and the new habitat growing afterwards:We got a more than significant rise of the deer (roe) population in the year after the blast, the does gave about 2-3 kids in average (!) birth, before the storm we got 1-2 kids.The fresh planted trees got very heavy damage by being eaten by the roe, till now you find a lot of replantations which suffer from it and wouldnt grow to a height out of reach of their mouth.... In well mananged areas we rised the cull number up to 300%.The first years hunting was very interesting and every clearfell was almost a guarantee for some nice roes (bucks).Its still the perfect habitat, offering shelter, cover and forage all year long, but its very hard to hunt this areas, without shooting lanes in between the replantations or even larger food plots, there is almost no chance to see deer....In my areas its getting worse now, because of all the boar realizing these clearfells as perfect habitats, too....So its definetively a very interesting habitat to hunt in, but its getting a difficult one by time.....For us: No way to be efficient without dogs, to get the numbers we need to take!... That means more driven hunts ! .....
Great post well said Wildboar1973 if that is your real name?Regards,Glendine
 
Toad I worked in the forestry for 20 years and was amazed at roe deer appearing after cutting rides out,thinning or clearfelling, as soon as you put chainsaw down for a break they would appear as if wondering what was disturbing them,also watched them feeding on the newly cut tips of trees .dont fell trees any longer,still miss those quiet times watching deer.
 
Toad I worked in the forestry for 20 years and was amazed at roe deer appearing after cutting rides out,thinning or clearfelling, as soon as you put chainsaw down for a break they would appear as if wondering what was disturbing them,also watched them feeding on the newly cut tips of trees .dont fell trees any longer,still miss those quiet times watching deer.
thats really great news . thanks to everyone for your feedback spring and summer will soon encourage new growth witch will invite the deer to feed i hope
 
The Swedes did a paper on this. They radio collared 20 does (10 on sites to be logged and ten on sites left alone) they found the deer (roe) were not significantly displaced geographically by logging activity; however, the times at which they were active moved significantly during the logging period and took 3 months to move back to a similar pattern to those on non logged sites.

Basically the paper confirms anecdotal observation.
 
Hi All!
I live and work in the area which got mostly affected by the terrible storm "Kyrill" in 2007....
We got about 40 millions cubicmeters of windthrown timber all over Europe and about 17 millions cubicmeters around my homecountry....
So I definetively know just a bit about clearfell, windthrown and the new habitat growing afterwards:
We got a more than significant rise of the deer (roe) population in the year after the blast, the does gave about 2-3 kids in average (!) birth, before the storm we got 1-2 kids.
The fresh planted trees got very heavy damage by being eaten by the roe, till now you find a lot of replantations which suffer from it and wouldnt grow to a height out of reach of their mouth.... In well mananged areas we rised the cull number up to 300%.
The first years hunting was very interesting and every clearfell was almost a guarantee for some nice roes (bucks).
Its still the perfect habitat, offering shelter, cover and forage all year long, but its very hard to hunt this areas, without shooting lanes in between the replantations or even larger food plots, there is almost no chance to see deer....
In my areas its getting worse now, because of all the boar realizing these clearfells as perfect habitats, too....
So its definetively a very interesting habitat to hunt in, but its getting a difficult one by time.....
For us: No way to be efficient without dogs, to get the numbers we need to take!

... That means more driven hunts ! .....

We had the same storm here. It was named "Per" We had a storm in 2005 "Gudrun" that caused terrible damage. I had had some area's cleared the year before but every tree that was left on the clear fell areas and a couple of small plantations were blown over. I was lucky and only had 600 cubic mtrs to clear up.
The regrowth did help the roe deer population that was then reduced by half by 2 of the coldest winters in a hundred years. The moose population is very healthy if not to many. It is said that in a couple of years the food source for the moose will have peaked.
Dog hunting roe is a hunting way of life here and all these plantations are going to give some interesting boar hunting in the near future.
 
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Good morning Glendine! ......If thats your real name..... :rofl:
I am afraid, but you know me, I think....
You will see some huge clearfells this winter, thats one thing I am sure to offer....:thumb:
 
Maybe one thing to add: Its also a change in the calibers we are shooting on deer there... (And I really dont want to start another discussion about the right or wrong caliber!):scared:
But: There are a lot of small brunches, brushes, tall grass, whatever which may be in the line of fire.
So for me, no long ranges to shoot on the regrowing clearfell, so no fast and small bullets, no too easy expanding bullets, but some thicker stuff: 8x57, 9.3x62, or if mainly roe the lovely .308!

Also some higher highseats are needed to keep the overview and because of sitting right in the shelter and cover, be above the wind, so they dont smell you!

OK, time to get ready for work, I will finish a new highseat today!
 
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