Closed ticket accompanied by open ticket, is police clearance required?

[T.eddie]

While on my DSC1 2 of the lads who shoot together had a similar scenario whereby the land wasn't cleared, one had an open ticket and one didn't and the one who didn't was initially told by the FEO that he could shoot on his ticket on the land if he was with his mate with an open ticket

The one with the open ticket went back and challenged that and the feo then realised this wasn't the case and ended up opening the other guys ticket up instead

while they weren't sharing the rifle, the conditions of the FAC, as far as I'm aware relate to individuals, so if his condition is that he can use the rifle but on a closed ticket then that's what he can do and the land would need to be cleared/his conditions amended

If, however he doesn't have the rifle on his ticket and you are the occupier of the land with authority to take other out, then he can use your rifle with you under estate rifle exemption

 

[Len the dog]

While on my DSC1 2 of the lads who shoot together had a similar scenario whereby the land wasn't cleared, one had an open ticket and one didn't and the one who didn't was initially told by the FEO that he could shoot on his ticket on the land if he was with his mate with an open ticket

The one with the open ticket went back and challenged that and the feo then realised this wasn't the case and ended up opening the other guys ticket up instead

while they weren't sharing the rifle, the conditions of the FAC, as far as I'm aware relate to individuals, so if his condition is that he can use the rifle but on a closed ticket then that's what he can do and the land would need to be cleared/his conditions amended

If, however he doesn't have the rifle on his ticket and you are the occupier of the land with authority to take other out, then he can use your rifle with you under estate rifle exemption

Thanks, having read the various interpretations I am inclined to agree with your reasoning on the matter, when my son eventually hears from the FEO we’ll ask him to add the relevant areas of land prior to grant.

 

[25 Sharps]

While on my DSC1 2 of the lads who shoot together had a similar scenario whereby the land wasn't cleared, one had an open ticket and one didn't and the one who didn't was initially told by the FEO that he could shoot on his ticket on the land if he was with his mate with an open ticket

The one with the open ticket went back and challenged that and the feo then realised this wasn't the case and ended up opening the other guys ticket up instead

while they weren't sharing the rifle, the conditions of the FAC, as far as I'm aware relate to individuals, so if his condition is that he can use the rifle but on a closed ticket then that's what he can do and the land would need to be cleared/his conditions amended

If, however he doesn't have the rifle on his ticket and you are the occupier of the land with authority to take other out, then he can use your rifle with you under estate rifle exemption

The conditions relate to the firearms and ammunition contained on the certificate as well as the person listed

 

[Alantoo]

I still have difficulties seeing that an FAC holder should be more restricted in choice of rifles and venues than some oik off the street.

It would be like saying that once you have been granted an FAC for a 22LR you are limited to just that chambering because that is what is on your ticket...whereas before you were approved for an FAC you could shoot any chambering under supervision, at the range or estate rifle?

If he was able to shoot that rifle on that land under his father's presence and instruction prior to being granted an FAC I really can't see why the added bonus of having his own FAC should prevent him doing exactly the same, shooting it on that land under his father's presence and instruction. Just that now he has the ticket he can shoot on his own where the land has been cleared.

If that is the law then the law is a ass!....Mr Bumble

Alan