Considering starting reloading

Crowsfeet

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Hi all,

I'm considering starting to load my own rounds this year. I currently only have a 22.250 buy may get a 243 in the near future.
My main reason isn't just the price, I find it interesting too. I'd also like to try and improve my groupings and see if I can better factory loads. Even though I only currently shoot foxes.

My question is, how much will it cost me to start up? are there any kits available with regard to tooling etc?
What I don't really want to do is buy something that I won't be happy with after 6 months and need to upgrade.

I've read the Reloading Overview Process by CSL and found that absolutely fantastic. Well done that man.

Many thanks,
Geoff.
 
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reloading is indeed a great addition hobby and enjoyment to your shooting, however first evaluate the quantity of ammunition you use then decide if it worth reloading especially at this time as a lot components have significantly increased in price and that is if you can find a shop with any in stock.
 
I bought a load of kit of a gentleman who was retiring from shooting. For £100 I got a whole reloading kit, plus a set of 243 dies and 1,000 odd primers. I am not sure reloading is any cheaper - you just end up shooting more. But at least once you have found a load you like, buy a couple or three boxes of bullets and a good tub of powder and then be happy for the next good while. And once those bullets are in your cupboard and you rediscover them a few years later - they are of course fully depreciated so its effectively free shooting.

I am down to my last 200 primers and dread to think what thy are now. The box I have is marked £20 per 1,000.
 
Get a good manual and read it. Lee is a good one. Absorb the information and if stuck ask the question on here

As for equipment your better picking bits that you want rather than buying a kit. Look on here and ebay for some good deals.

You need:

Press +shell holders
Case primer (if press doesn't have one)
Dies - full length resizer and seating
Lube
Scales (buy decent would go beam scale to start)
Loading block to hold your brass.
Case trimmer
Chamfer debur tool
Good set of digital calipers.

That would get you start you off. If picked all mine up second hand about 5 years ago and haven't looked back! It's a great hobbie.
 
Get a good manual and read it. Lee is a good one. Absorb the information and if stuck ask the question on here

As for equipment your better picking bits that you want rather than buying a kit. Look on here and ebay for some good deals.

You need:

Press +shell holders
Case primer (if press doesn't have one)
Dies - full length resizer and seating
Lube
Scales (buy decent would go beam scale to start)
Loading block to hold your brass.
Case trimmer
Chamfer debur tool
Good set of digital calipers.

That would get you start you off. If picked all mine up second hand about 5 years ago and haven't looked back! It's a great hobbie.
Brilliant. Thanks for the list especially.
 
No problem,

Once you have learnt how to load a round then you can start to develop your own teqniques and what suits you. I tend to batch prep everything and develop loads in my own way.

You pick up lots of little bits through trial and error and eventually come to what suits you. I've got to the point where I can develop a good load in about 20- 40 rounds now.

If you need any information just drop me a message and il help you the best I can.
 
I started last year and found that although the kits do contain some items that you will likely never need, they still work out considerably cheaper than putting together that shopping list from individually bought items.
FWIW, I bought the RCBS rock chucker supreme kit from McAvoys and sourced the dies from wherever had stock at the cheapest price.
 
@Stalker-of-the-deer 's list is a decent starting point although I regard some form of bullet puller as essential equipment too.

Don't get too suckered into brand consciousness, no one reloading company makes the best version of every type of tool or equipment, most of them make something unique, and I don't think any of them make a version of every type of tool you might want.
 
Oh yes forgot to put that! Get a press mounted one though, the hammers are naff!

Also forgot to put a powder throw and trickler!

My equipment is all sorts of stuff that I've picked up.
 
Use an old teaspoon to be kept only for dosing powder into the measuring scales dish or buy a set of the yellow plastic Lee powder measures ( I have these but also made up a bunch of measures using fired .22lr .22 mag .32acp etc cases with a 2.5 diameter copper rod wrapped around the case & with araldite to hold it with the other end of the copper rod bonded into a small wooden handle, the cost was zero and they work ). This will get you going, BTW buy a good loading manual and trawl the you tubers to watch what others do and then decide what makes sense as your method.
 
There are about 2 dozen threads along this topic. You should do a search and read up on it.
First things first: Buy a reloading manual like the Lee and READ it. Not the data, just the text. ~Muir
This! The search function of the forums, threads and titles on this site gives you a lot of knowledge. I suspect you'll find nearly everything in the historical posts you'll need for a long time!

the hammers are naff
I have to respectfully disagree, though appreciate "naff" can be interpreted in many different ways...

I thought you might find helpful a quick summary of my reloading journey, now I've been at it for about 6-months. I started as an indoor 22LR target rifle shooter and started fullbore (.223) at the beginning of last year. Purely a range shooter putting through 30-50 rounds at time - this is/was a big problem for my stalking 223 with skinny barrel that would heat up considerably over the summer as I was practicing reloading/shooting.

This is basically how my reloading journey has played out so far:
  • Read/watch/download - for a good couple of weeks/months. There are some free (official/unlicensed) downloads from the web. I got a number of loading manuals and loads of bullet and powder specific manuals as PDFs off the websites. Watched a number of Youtube videos from the official makers of the equipment and loads of other Youtubers. My goal was to understand the process in the most safe and efficient way...performance and fine tuning later. That's the rabbit hole for me!
  • I bought a "Lee Loader" kit, some powder based on availability and the reloading manuals), primers (eyewatering prices in July 2022) and 3 boxes of heads (Sierra, Nosler, Hornady) for my 223. That plus a rubber mallet, calipers and some jewelers scales was all i thought I needed. I added a ebay set of used balance scales for piece of mind when weighing charges as I started bricking it becoming so real! (I was scared using just the scoop, though its very good!).
  • I had pre-fired brass (pre-fired) from my bolt action and made the rookie error of not properly adjusting overall length for the particular head, plus having some grime in the chamber, making it stiff to close. Once I ironed that out, it was silky smooth shooting and slightly better performance (I'm still adapting to fullbore from smallbore) than the factory 223 I was using.
  • I could have called it quits with the Lee Loader but I got a variation for 6.5creed and the loader isnt made in that caliber. Plus its a bit noisy (in my setup) and perhaps not as efficient for a rookie like me....so....
  • I bought a used press from ebay, scoured these forums classified section for dies in 223 and 6.5CM. Didn't take too long at all. Just remember that used can be good but has its own caveats. I was crushing my first cases with a die until I realized I was sold a crimping die but the instructions supplied were for a non-crimper!
  • The additional things I think are invaluable for me are: trickler and cheap powder thrower (to speed up instead of a scoop+plastic spoon), an on-press primer die (to seat the primers) a reloading tray (helpful!) and a length gauge and cutter, deburring tool. NOTE: I'm neck sizing only in this setup. FL sizing will need lubrication! I bought a Lyman hand-press which I hate - reading some of the reviews I wonder why I did! Each to their own...
Equipment wise, I have a spreadsheet and I'm around £300 mark excluding consumables. If you already have good shot brass, theres already a saving, but I went into it knowing it wasn't (all) about price. Precision wise, I honestly can't tell despite getting massively improved groups with my reloads - as I get a better shot and move over to the 6.5CM which has a heavier varmint barrel I'll get a better idea of whether it makes a significant enough difference. I'm biased and already think it does! But its a great feeling for me to do it myself and learn and put into practice something new. Depending on how much and often you shoot, a Lee Loader might just be the first way to dip in your toe. Despite loading now with the press, I'll never sell the loader kit!

Hope that adds some colour and ideas to contemplate. Hope you have fun and above all, be safe!
BRP
 
I think I spent around £6-700 when I started loading which bought me everything from brass trimmer, brushes, RCBS dies, presses and all the components needed to load ammunition. Ammo loaded hasn't recouped that cost yet but I don't think that's really why reloading is done. The level of confidence you have when you can load and shoot a 1/4" group does wonders for you in the field
 
I had pre-fired brass (pre-fired) from my bolt action and made the rookie error of not properly adjusting overall length for the particular head, plus having some grime in the chamber, making it stiff to close.

😖

Notwithstanding how irate some folk get about nomenclature, it is so important to get it right, especially when you are dicking about with ammunition.

Correct 'naming of parts', is not only correct, it is safer...

cartridge.webp
 
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