curing venison

mereside

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right been meaning to get round to this for ages so here goes,
1 haunch venison
5g cure 2 prague powder
55g salt
2.2g garlic powder
4.2g rosemary
6.6g black pepper
1.6g juniper berries
I started with a haunch and cut the leg bone down and i also cut most of the siver skin off then weigh out all ingredients and rub into all nooks and crannies till totally covered place haunch in a bag and tip the rest of the ingedients into the bag and shake well.
Tye the top and leave in the fridge for 18 days then into the curing chamber for 2 months, atb wayne


 
I have not done this yet but have a haunch in the freezer to do, but that doesn't sound like a lot of salt compared to what I have read is that because of the prague powder? And is that 5g a specific amount because it can be dangerous? Be great to see how this goes!
 
Cheers will take a look, a lot of the reports on here say it ends up too salty so be good to see how yours turns out with less salt. What does your chamber look like?
 
its a fridge with a tube heater and hooked up to a temp controller to keep a constant 55 deg i need to rig up a computer fan and at the moment for humidity its got a container of saturated salt solution but will get a humidifier at some point,atb wayne
 
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here is an artical on different methods of cure using salt so it might help when curing for those wanting to try,
I've gotten a number of questions regarding the application of salt during the curing phase of cured meats as it related to quantity and duration, so I thought a small post was in order to clarify various curing methodologies.

There are generally 2 methods to cure meat:


  1. The older method (I believe) is what I would call "excess salt" curing. This basically involves applying a generous quantity of salt to the piece of meat, together with the spices, and waiting a certain amount of time for the meat to absorb the salt.
  2. The other method is what I (and others) call "equilibrium curing" in which a calculated quantity of salt is added to the meat, with the spices, and allowing enough time for the meat to absorb all the salt.
While both methods will work, the excess salt method involves guessing, hopefully based on experience, how long the meat should be left in this salt mixture to cure. If it's not left long enough, not enough salt is absorbed to preserve the meat, if it's left too long the end product will be salty. This "guessing" will have to vary based on the percentage of meat to fat in the product (fat absorbs salt less readily), whether the product has skin on it (skin acts as a barrier), the thickness of the product, the temperature of the fridge, and probably many more variables. I've heard people say to leave items for 1 days per kilogram of meat, but that doesn't really make sense as it doesn't account for thickness or fat content. Sounds to me like the old recipes where people were told to cook something in the oven for X number of minutes per pound. It'll work, but most likely you'll end up with overcooked/undercooked food because the variables are not accounted for! Honestly, this type of curing doesn't make much sense to me. I don't see an advantage, but I would be happy to hear from people who do this (and there are many!) to correct me.


I always cure using an equilibrium cure. I use between 2.5% and 3.5% of the meats weight in salt, rub it all over the meat, and put the meat in a sealed bag, flipping it every 3-5 days in the refrigerator to make sure the chunk is always exposed to the brine that is formed by the salt pulling out water from the muscle. After a fairly arbitrary amount of time, but one which is long enough to make sure all the salt i've applied has been absorbed, I consider the meat cured and ready to move to the next phase, into the fermentation box or curing chamber. To me this is much easier than excess salt curing. By applying a known, wanted, quantity of salt, the product will not become over-salted, ever, no matter how long it's left in the fridge. The question is really what the minimum amount of time is for the meat to absorb the salt. I don't really have a good answer, other than "leave it long enough to be SURE it's absorbed the salt". I always leave my items in the fridge curing at least 2 weeks, and for very large things like a culatello, I give it 3. That's the beauty of this system..... you can't overcure! I guess if I'm in a analogy to cooking mood, this method would be the sous vide cooking of the curing world. By cooking a product at it's final temperature, you can't overcook it, and it won't be undercooked if you leave it long enough.


I hope that sheds some light on the different methods, and why I do things the way I do.

that was taken from the cured meats website, atb wayne
 
Hey new to this, And was wondering if anyone did a wet cure with venison and how it turned out. I am familiar with bacon but hesitant with venison not wanting to waste it, Really enjoy my bacon and hams cured with salt,garlic, and black pepper simple and tasty.
Dixie
 
Hey new to this, And was wondering if anyone did a wet cure with venison and how it turned out. I am familiar with bacon but hesitant with venison not wanting to waste it, Really enjoy my bacon and hams cured with salt,garlic, and black pepper simple and tasty.
Dixie

Hi, I've got some on the go right now. Mix an 80% brine solution (2.5 l of water to 1.2kg of normal salt) and pierce the meat well. I then cure it in the brine for 30 mins per 25mm of thicknes. Take it out of the brine and hang it in the chiller to dry out for 3 hrs or overnight. I then pop it into the hot smoker at 50 deg c for 40 mins and then add sawdust and increase the temp to 70deg c and smoke it for several hours until its internal temp reaches 65 deg c. I then take it out and rinse it in cold water to cool it down and pop it back in the chiller for 12 hrs to let the tase mellow. After that its done. Its lovely, its like a venison ham and is very good to eat. Try making a VLT sandwich with gerhkin in some home made mayonaise.

Kind regards, Olaf
 
Mereside, please keep us posted with updates on the ham! I've been wanting to try this for a while now, just need to get a deer first! I'd be very interested to see how yours turns out.
 
Mereside, you've obviously done your research but in case there's anything interesting (and for others benefit), interesting and clear breakdown on the how's and why's of a curing cabinet here .

Good luck - definitely something I'm keen to try!
 
legolas here is a pic so far its darkening off somewhat now and the salty juices that initially came out of the haunch have now gone back in i have been turning and massaging every two days,going to leave it till next monday as i am am off hunting in sweden from wed so it will have to have a little longer.
tom thats a great web site and i have not come across that so thanks for posting, I will update more when its in the cabinet, atb wayne
ps just like to add it smells really tasty the rosemary and juniper is really coming through
 
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right guys here's an update its been a while and just had to have a peep it looks great hanging and has the nice culture on the surface and has reduced enough i think in size to try well my first go and wow is all i can say it has a subtle tone of juniper with rosemary but very faint and has also no saltyness to it just really tasty and even the wife has given two thumbs fresh which is a real compliment,
 
well i have to say with a huge grin it does and will put money on it turning out the same for anyone else just give it a go as it is so simple its silly, I know what i am going to be doing now, I might even try it with a red loin as i think that will be awsome, atb wayne
 
wow that also looks super another one i will be having a crack at i am going to be putting a few on the go so i have stock into mature, wayne
 
How long has yours been hung for Wayne ?

Is there a rule of thumb to work to to no when ready??

Mines firming up nicely.
I dropped a little clanger, I weighed mine before the whole process which came in at 6lb. But forgot to weight it prior to hanging. I've just weighed it now and it's lost just over 1lb in weight and been hanging for two weeks. Smelling good to.
 
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