Deeply Deeply Sad
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pheasant sniper 1
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Quoting yourself does not reinforce your opinion.
I cant understand how the tolerance given by the people of this country has seen rascist attacks by minority groups all but quadruple against the indigenous people.
Ofcourse muslim attacks on people drinking which is legal in this country or choosing to wear clothing they see fit doesnt make great news headlines..
There are no go areas in Bradford for Police and the local community that have lived there for generations.
My son was one of two white children in his class in London, his mate was stabbed and my son carries the scars from being bottled in the face..
Whole communities are being displaced and the way of life lost forever as immigration and strongholds are forcing the local people to flee..
Its all well and good these doogooders crying on behalf of so called minority groups who then take over and force their values where once proud English families spent generations to then be forced from their homes..
This referendom has shown that the people are fed up of being put second to immigration and toadying to minority extremist groups..
Long may it continue.
I have to say, going by your location stated, perhaps you don't see the full picture. Last time I was in Cornwall (for 6 months) I don't recollect once being told "white people are not allowed down this road, it's Asian". Nor did I see any ghetto's, neither did I see gangs of Asian youths on street corners.
Perhaps it's altered now and you do experience what inner city's do.?
Highlandsjohn
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I don't experience it either..yet...but I firmly believe that is the main reason we voted out.
Our governments have allowed our culture and way of life to be inextricably eroded ,so much so, that it has come to this. The welcome mats on our parents doorsteps have been exploited and removed......
And I completely agree with you. What does annoy me is folk who live out of it, never see it for any length of time then wonder why those who do have to live with it don't welcome more migrants with open arms.
Perhaps some folk should open their eyes before commenting ?
It was my understanding that we voted out because it was one of the ways to reduce uncontrolled immigration, we voted out because our laws are made elsewhere and somewhat onerous in, for example, the case against extremist muslim clerics and the murderer of the teacher. There are a million reasons but none of them were about racism - nothing has changed and if the racists feel emboldened by a vote to leave Europe, its up to the majority to tell them to get back in their cage. We do actually have our own law against racism - nothing has changed or invalidated that.
Too much rubbish I am afraid by those who wish to foment unrest - go home there isnt any.
Too much rubbish I am afraid by those who wish to foment unrest - go home there isnt any.
JabaliHunter
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and surprise, surprise, the media have not covered people who voted for sovereignty, only those who voted against migration...
I think a lot of people voted because they're fed up of uncontrolled immigration from anywhere, not just Asia.
Unfortunately I am afraid your understanding is not involved. The reason as to why anybody voted either way is both anybody's guess and totally irrelevant.
All 30 odd million referendum voters have only actually voted on one issue...
To leave, or not to leave the EU, and that is all.
As has been pointed out by many of the leave campaign...a leave vote does not mean a new hospital every week, or any reduction of immigration, or the repatriation of any migrants or any thing else.
However one may hope those will be an associated outcome it is just wishful thinking.
The only question and issue the referendum answered was whether the majority wanted to stay in or leave the EU.
Anything else will be down to what deals can be negotiated in the coming months.
Alan
I am afraid you shall reap the whirlwind if you sow the wind...
pheasant sniper 1
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The other side of the coin may well not be a resentment against ethnic minorities rather a desire to keep tradition and values, culture and age old communities.
Why should retaining English customs, values and traditions be way down the list, banning our ladies wearing bikinis because it offends a few muzzies. Closing down a 100 year old English butchers shop because the area has become muslim dominated. Schools dominated by halal prepared meat.
B*ll*cks..
**** the lot of them... This country needs to retain its inheritance whilst being receptive of immigration not immigration and extremists dominating the natives
Hayduke
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^^ and that's the basis of you voting to leave the EU, halal meat and Muslims ? You mean you are risking the economy and the Union because the EU has foisted halal on you against your culture. Cool bro
How about Brexiters and the English cultural preservation faction keep to their sunny uplands and land of milk and honey thread, and majority of Scots and remainers have this thread ?
Right I'm off morris dancing.
How about Brexiters and the English cultural preservation faction keep to their sunny uplands and land of milk and honey thread, and majority of Scots and remainers have this thread ?
Right I'm off morris dancing.
pheasant sniper 1
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Fantastic... this reply shows adequately whats wrong with society..
You chose to take my last response over all previous posts because it suited your agenda..
You chose to make a point of it out of context which makes you feel cool bro... Whats wrong with being opposed to Halal? i guess from your responce you welcome it over and above English traditions regarding the welfare of animals ?
Pathetic to take one sentence from a paragraph to demonstrate your ignorance,,,
Please try again with more conviction.
Hope your hankey is in the right pocket tho maybe you dont care....
Hayduke
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Sense from our friends in America:
John Kerry: Brexit could be 'walked back' | US news | The Guardian
A nice Churchill quote:
We hope to see a Europe where men of every country will think as much of being a European as ofbelonging to their native land, and that without losing any of their love and loyalty of their birthplace. Wehope wherever they go in this wide domain, to which we set no limits in the European Continent, they willtruly feel "Here I am at home. I am a citizen of this country too". Let us meet together. Let us work together.Let us do our utmost—all that is in us—for the good of all. How simple it would all be, how crowned withblessings for all of us if that could ever come, especially for the children and young men and women nowgrowing up in this tortured world. How proud we should all be if we had played any useful part in bringingthat great day to come. And here I invoke the interest of the broad, proletarian masses. We see before oureyes scores of millions of humble homes in Europe and in lands outside which have been afflicted by war.
John Kerry: Brexit could be 'walked back' | US news | The Guardian
A nice Churchill quote:
We hope to see a Europe where men of every country will think as much of being a European as ofbelonging to their native land, and that without losing any of their love and loyalty of their birthplace. Wehope wherever they go in this wide domain, to which we set no limits in the European Continent, they willtruly feel "Here I am at home. I am a citizen of this country too". Let us meet together. Let us work together.Let us do our utmost—all that is in us—for the good of all. How simple it would all be, how crowned withblessings for all of us if that could ever come, especially for the children and young men and women nowgrowing up in this tortured world. How proud we should all be if we had played any useful part in bringingthat great day to come. And here I invoke the interest of the broad, proletarian masses. We see before oureyes scores of millions of humble homes in Europe and in lands outside which have been afflicted by war.
pheasant sniper 1
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And the evidence of this dream is all about us as minority groups dissolve historic communities and spread their bias amongst generations of free citizens
Highlandsjohn
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do you mean this john kerry
SO-CALLED “WAR HERO” JOHN KERRY
A FRAUD – SELF-PROCLAIMED
“WARRIOR” STRONGLY OPPOSED BY
“NAM” VETS HE SMEARED DURING HIS
CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY – NEW
EVIDENCE KERRY LIED ABOUT FIRST
PURPLE HEART “WOUND” – VAST
MAJORITY OF VIETNAM VETS – BOTH
DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN – TO
VOTE AGAINST JANE FONDA’S “PAL”
KERRY, A MAN WITHOUT HONOR, UNFIT
TO BE “COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF”
I am sure our USA members could fill you in on the real Kerry .....
If half the dirt on John Kerry was posted, it would crash this website.
To stay on these issues, Kerry has his job because he is part of the Ideologues in Denial who run the Democratic Party. He was put there to cover up the failures of Hillary Clinton and echo the delusional rhetoric of Barack Obama. All these people believe, going back to the days when they were indoctrinated by communist adult mentors, that the USA is a bully and all the Europeans and UK are colonial powers who are always the problem.
Obama declared that, "ISIS is on the run, losing territory."
His CIA Director then said, under oath, that we have only retaken 2% of ISIS territory.
Kerry said that the attacks in Orlando and Turkey, "are acts of desperation, when you know you are losing."
Kerry's dimwit blonde spokeschick said today that the solution for radical Jihad is "jobs training".
They are all believers in world government, and in the interim, regional superstates. They are incompetent wannabe elitists who don't have the talent to be elite... just like EU parliament. They have total disdain for the "little people", who reject their crazy ideologies. So the common people have to be deceived, forced, and frightened into doing what these elites know is best for them - but not for the elites; they have their own set of rules. The are not liberals. They are just like their "liberal" predecessors who were infatuated with Mussolini and Hitler, and totally surprised when the bullets started flying.
To stay on these issues, Kerry has his job because he is part of the Ideologues in Denial who run the Democratic Party. He was put there to cover up the failures of Hillary Clinton and echo the delusional rhetoric of Barack Obama. All these people believe, going back to the days when they were indoctrinated by communist adult mentors, that the USA is a bully and all the Europeans and UK are colonial powers who are always the problem.
Obama declared that, "ISIS is on the run, losing territory."
His CIA Director then said, under oath, that we have only retaken 2% of ISIS territory.
Kerry said that the attacks in Orlando and Turkey, "are acts of desperation, when you know you are losing."
Kerry's dimwit blonde spokeschick said today that the solution for radical Jihad is "jobs training".
They are all believers in world government, and in the interim, regional superstates. They are incompetent wannabe elitists who don't have the talent to be elite... just like EU parliament. They have total disdain for the "little people", who reject their crazy ideologies. So the common people have to be deceived, forced, and frightened into doing what these elites know is best for them - but not for the elites; they have their own set of rules. The are not liberals. They are just like their "liberal" predecessors who were infatuated with Mussolini and Hitler, and totally surprised when the bullets started flying.
We've got a country full of those idiots, and usually they have the largest mouths.
Alan, I do take your point about moving forward from where we are, even if it isn't where we wanted to be, but don't the reasons people made their choice matter too? Does it polarize us irredeemably, or help us to understand each other?
On the negative side, the winning Leavers are being accused of lies, racism, xenophobia, folly, irresponsibility, and any number of other vices, whilst the losing Remainers are being accused of scaremongering beforehand and being bad losers afterwards. Meanwhile, positive characterizations are patriotism, sovereignty, independence, freedom, genuine democracy and economic realism vs internationalism, cooperation, progressive reform and prudence. Are such characterizations actually baseless, or are they really -as you suggest- simply pointless at this stage?
Finally, I found this programme really interesting :BBC Radio 4 - The Human Zoo, Series 8, That Post-Referendum Feeling
On the negative side, the winning Leavers are being accused of lies, racism, xenophobia, folly, irresponsibility, and any number of other vices, whilst the losing Remainers are being accused of scaremongering beforehand and being bad losers afterwards. Meanwhile, positive characterizations are patriotism, sovereignty, independence, freedom, genuine democracy and economic realism vs internationalism, cooperation, progressive reform and prudence. Are such characterizations actually baseless, or are they really -as you suggest- simply pointless at this stage?
Finally, I found this programme really interesting :BBC Radio 4 - The Human Zoo, Series 8, That Post-Referendum Feeling
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