Despatching wounded animals hit by cars
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nicholiath
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I am registered for call out for humane despatch. recently called out to for a rose buck stood in field after being hit by a car, policeman was in attendance, 12 bore to back of head from 15yds did the job. was only about 10 yds from road. perfectly legal to prevent suffering even if it was say lying in the middle of the road if safe to do so you can shoot it. i have extra cover from BASC and a humane despatch condition on my fac
Amhuinnsuidhe
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A cut to the throat is very effective. When I've been without gun or knife a sharp blow to the back if the head with the edge of my spade was also incredibly effective.
african jack
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What was the just reason in law to have this in the car or on his person
Hahaha :') No the knife wasnt exactly with me in the car at the time, but at my house just a minute down the road. No guns at home though, as yet, thus my only option was to pop home for the knife. Irony was, I was on the way home from picking up a gun cabinet, in order to legally keep guns at home! 
Heym SR20
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When i did my DSC1 may moons ago in te last century we had a session on humane dispatch of particularly road injured deer. A firearm is by far the best tool, but often it will take time for one to arrive at the scene. The instructor suggested that Most vehicles carry a wheel brace and that makes a very efficient dispatch tool with a hard blow between the eyes or back of head. Not something for a large red stag, but a doe or a buck quite efficient and probably safer than a knife on a struggling buck with horns.
Answered I think. But did his car have a current MOT and water in his washer bottle?
Paul at Fechan
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The law specifically allows for injured animal to be dispatched by any method that ends the animal suffering where good intent is shown...
The facts are simple
SAFETY - WELFARE - HYGIENE
Your safety and the safety of other at the scene once you take charge, then the welfare of the animal, then once dead the making sure the carcass doesn't enter the commercial human food chain. You can use any method to achieve this, top choices.
1) Rifle of capable calibre (.17hmr up to the back of the head no problem)
2) Any shotgun (will scoop the back of the head out)
3) knife (done right very quick, quiet and discrete)
4) hammer, wheel brace, axe, heavy tool (cave in the skull)
5) big stone, brick, heavy lump (cave in the skull)
All good job done
The facts are simple
SAFETY - WELFARE - HYGIENE
Your safety and the safety of other at the scene once you take charge, then the welfare of the animal, then once dead the making sure the carcass doesn't enter the commercial human food chain. You can use any method to achieve this, top choices.
1) Rifle of capable calibre (.17hmr up to the back of the head no problem)
2) Any shotgun (will scoop the back of the head out)
3) knife (done right very quick, quiet and discrete)
4) hammer, wheel brace, axe, heavy tool (cave in the skull)
5) big stone, brick, heavy lump (cave in the skull)
All good job done
bewsher500
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I have at least two knives in my car
I also have a box of assorted chisels, screw drivers, hammers, a tyre iron, spanners, probably some stanley knife blades and handle, that just off the top of my head.
no-one in their right minds makes a choice to drive a 14 year old vehicle without following Baden Powells mantra!
I defy any Police officer to distinguish between which lethal weapon is more lethal and why he thinks my car under lock and key is a "public place"! (I had the good fortune to actually test this first hand when I was stopped with a 6" diving knife in the car)
if it is good enough to secure a gun in the eyes of the law it is good enough to store a knife.
You can't have it both ways
please don't perpetuate the myths that you can not have a knife in your car "cos the law says so"
More importantly I am interested in the method of "cutting its throat"
IMO cutting the throat is not only unnecessarily painful, (just feel how sensitive your own neck is when you nick it with a razor low down)
And also requires far too much flesh and skin to be cut to sever the vital vessels.
far better to go straight in just above the sternum directly in line with the body.
quick cut side to side and you are done.
small puncture wound (as opposed to large cut wound)
bigger arteries and quicker blood loss.
I don't agree that anyone should try the atlas joint with a knife without practicing at least 10 times on a dead carcase either. much more likely to screw up
craigievarkiller
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Yes, I saw it Si.
Horse had been hit by a car.
Horse in a VERY poor way. One leg nearly severed and other multiple injuries.
'Emergency vet' took over half an hour to turn up !
Horse was in a hell of a pain and distress.
Tactical firearms unit turned up earlier than vet but just milled around not really knowing what to do...lots of talk about unsuitable location, unsuitable ammunition, unsuitable firearms etc etc .....question why the **** the 2 firearms units turned up (with all lights blazing) to be honest ?
Horse owners and passers by had to sit on horse for over half an hour (in very distressing circumstances) to keep beast down whilst waiting for vet.
I wonder if they would have let passing stalker help put a end to this poor beasts suffering (under a controlled environment) ?
Poor show in my humble opinion
ATB CVK
So, amongst these "Firearms Units" not one of them had a side arm??
All they needed to do was stick a rolled up hi-viz jacket under the poor creatures head before shooting if concerned about bullet passing through and taking a spin off the tarmac. Just no common sense here but then they were on camera so ............................
K
All they needed to do was stick a rolled up hi-viz jacket under the poor creatures head before shooting if concerned about bullet passing through and taking a spin off the tarmac. Just no common sense here but then they were on camera so ............................
K
craigievarkiller
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yes, they all had sidearms ....and they also carry 'ballistic buckets' in their motors, for ensuring safety when loading and unloading their weapons. They could have placed their 'ballistic buckets' ...or as you say....various jackets or other materials under / behind the poor beasts head and put it out of its unimaginable misery much quicker than waiting for the vet to turn up.
jimbo1984
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So all in all they just couldn't be bothered to dispatch the poor beast seeing as none of those excuses hold any wate at all!! A .22 rf behind the ear would easily despatch the poor animal , I wonder if the RSPCA will prosecute the for unnecessary suffering?? I think not .....Yes, I saw it Si.
Horse had been hit by a car.
Horse in a VERY poor way. One leg nearly severed and other multiple injuries.
'Emergency vet' took over half an hour to turn up !
Horse was in a hell of a pain and distress.
Tactical firearms unit turned up earlier than vet but just milled around not really knowing what to do...lots of talk about unsuitable location, unsuitable ammunition, unsuitable firearms etc etc .....question why the **** the 2 firearms units turned up (with all lights blazing) to be honest ?
Horse owners and passers by had to sit on horse for over half an hour (in very distressing circumstances) to keep beast down whilst waiting for vet.
I wonder if they would have let passing stalker help put a end to this poor beasts suffering (under a controlled environment) ?
Poor show in my humble opinion
ATB CVK
bewsher500
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A long time ago my father attended an RTA involving a deer, messed up car and a deer with broken back.
it had managed to get onto a nearby golf course and was under a tree.
The ARu were there before him but did not shoot. they were finally given authority to shoot it from range but only under specific instructions from the attending vet (my father)
The marksman had no idea where to shoot, but my father was very impressed that off hand with what he said was little more than a long barrelled pistol affair, he popped it exactly where told at about 80-90yds
jimbo1984
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Glad to hear it ended well but this disturbs me .... No idea where to shoot????? One in the back of the head !! Howhard is that... Not being funny but even of I wasn't a stalker or into hunting etc I doubt very much that Iwouldn't know that , the worrying thing is these people are out there armed and supposably protecting us
And spending a great deal of taxpayer's money getting through thousands and thousands of rounds as they have it large on Bisley's Short Siberia Range throughout weekdays!
I think they know well enough where to shoot you!
K
I think they know well enough where to shoot you!
K
bewsher500
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You would advise someone with no stalking knowledge or cervine anatomy (or any herbivore anatomy) to shoot something in the head at 80 yds? That is a circa 2" target on a wounded animal, most likely to be moving
Knowing what you know about police marksmen...is that really a good idea?
would imagine the number of ARU officers who hunt is small
the number who actually pull the trigger on a live target even smaller
I actually admire the fact that he had the professional courtesy to ask the attending vet where he wanted it shot
jimbo1984
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Nope I'd tell him to try and get closer! But as you say if their marksman ship is as good as the officer attending the incident your dad was attending then I can't see a headshot being a problem with a carbine like an mp 5
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