"LOW LIGHT" is not where i was aiming my comment .
Digital v’s glass
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Leec6.5
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Digital is for desperate trigger pullers, the SD Is full of them
And one less excuse for a f@£k upWe’re on the same page
Disagree entirely.
A lot of my ground is fairly public, the deer don’t show up until last light, or moving into cover very close to first. The landowners want a cull to be made. Digital is a useful tool to accomplish this, simple. I have several friends in the same boat.
I haven’t noticed a difference in my group sizes between glass and digital.
Having read a few of your posts you seem slightly ‘out of the door’ with stalking, and have let a lot of land go. Not all of us are as checked out.
timbrayford
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Got the Alpex 4k and its brilliant for the dark gloomy winter afternoons when all the glass scope gives you is a dark outline of a deer and no clue about it being a suitable cull animal. However, I suspect that the best option might be premium glass supported by a front end NV add on, anyone tried doing this?
Leec6.5
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Well then, I have to ask the question are you actually paid to do it?
Because then if it’s not your paid job, where your livelihood depends upon it, I can’t see why anyone needs to shoot Deer at night just because the government say there’s too many!
Because let me tell you, I don’t give two
if the government says there’s too many Deer, unless I am paid, there is no way I’m going about shooting Deer at night, simply not worth the time hassle or aggravation and ball ache to do it! For me to lose my beauty sleep and go through the hassle of it, I would want £50 an hour plus costs and Carcasses
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You must live on a different planet from some, or at least in totally different countryside.
Ever tried stalking in commercial forestry on the edge of town, where there are high levels of public access?
I'm not paid to stalk. The opposite in fact, I have a lease which has cull targets. About 30% of this particular block is vulnerable restock. I'm certainly not interested in stalking in the middle of the night but without stalking on the very edges of legal hours, and a little beyond with a night license, my annual cull would be zero.
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Leec6.5
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Different ballgame you’re in Scotland, different world north for the border and always has been!
I’m on about these new fangled crock of
night licenses south of the wall, where everybody seems to have one just in case a fallow crosses the top right hand left gnats cock corner of their permission.Well then, I have to ask the question are you actually paid to do it?
Because then if it’s not your paid job, where your livelihood depends upon it, I can’t see why anyone needs to shoot Deer at night just because the government say there’s too many!
Because let me tell you, I don’t give two
For me to lose my beauty sleep and go through the hassle of it, I would want £50 an hour plus costs and Carcasses
I didn’t say at night. And I don’t shoot any deer after legal hours, and will resist any pressure to do so.
Digital gives you an extra 20 minutes (of legal light) which is very, very useful in my area. I lost count of times I saw 15 hinds jump out of a wood, and even with my £3k PM2 I couldn’t see enough to make an ethical shot.
In many ways digital allows you to more humanely place a bullet in low light, and identify your target animal with more certainty.
I feel a lot of guys who have had a lot of stalking for a very long time forget how hard it is to get and retain ground, and how much pressure is now on us to meet culls.
Don’t judge everyone by the lowest common denominator, those who misuse digital are likely those who boundary hop, and misused the lamp.
Leec6.5
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If you’re being put under pressure to shoot Deer, then the land owner is gonna have to dig deep and pay end of subject if it’s that bigger problem!
Not being paid then there’s no pressure simple as that, if you are that concerned to shoot there because you are under pressure and you’re not being paid for it, you want your head testing
Koenig
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That’s it in a nutshell.
Leec6.5
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i’ve shot red later than that legally with an 8 x 56 Schmidt Bender, when I was younger and keener and more mercenary!
You just have to be in the right place at the right time, obviously you’re not in the right place at the right time, it’s called Fieldcraft, knowing your ground at the back of your hand knowing your species like the back of your hand and watching, and being where you need to be when it all clicks into place that’s proper deer management!
I fear, in furthering this conversation, I am in danger of breaking one of my own life rules.
Have a good day.
I use glass on my rifle and a pair of digital Habrok 4K's. Seems to be the best of both worlds, affordable all in one day/IR/Thermal, LRF and zoom for keeping an eye out, but simple 8*56 S&B on the rifle so I'm not faffing about with parallax and zoom etc when taking a shot. Just my two cents, both have their place in modern deer stalking in my opinion
Leec6.5
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Leec6.5
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100% , if you’re paid to shoot Deer in dwindling light and into the night Fairplay to you, you’ve gotta do what you’ve got to do to earn a quid!
Whereas the hobby Bob stalker which is 85% of the SD, if you’re not being paid, why bother busting a gut?
Just does t make sense to me!
I think a mixture of this and then if you're foxing etc, good to have a scope which will do everything, shooting into the night and using different bullet weights etc. have a few mates who do both and use 100gr for stalking and 55gr for foxing in a .243 with an alpex 4K which works well for them as one rifle does everything.
Like you say for hobby stalking there's nothing wrong with good old fashioned glass, whatever you want to spend or whatever you want to use. That's the joy of being an adult!
Like you say for hobby stalking there's nothing wrong with good old fashioned glass, whatever you want to spend or whatever you want to use. That's the joy of being an adult!
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