DMQ level 1 and 2 changes
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Utectok
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I imagine that those already qualified maintain there status. After all the meat hygiene/trained hunter section is actually a bolt on to dsc1 and a different qualification.
White Hart
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Here's a scan of the article if you want to read it:
8x57
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I think you are probably correct Utectok or at least I hope so. I also hope that the separate game meat hygiene certificate will continue to be recognised as I was intending to do this back at the start of last year and then the dreaded Covid struck. I am one of the many hundresds or perhaps thousands who got their DSC1 before the game hygiene element was added to the test and I have no real need or desire to do the DSC2.
Thank you White Hart for posting the changes, most interesting.
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baguio
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Things are improved and amended all the time in the real world. Why should DSC1 and DCS2 be any different? Well done to DMQ for finally realising that the qualifications it was giving out weren't up to scratch. Not before time in mine and most people on here's opinion.
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jimmy milnes
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I totally agree things that aren't up to scratch should be amended..
However, amend the level 1 to be fit for purpose, don't just move a whole element out of it to a further qualification that you then have to pay another fee to sit. It smarts of the original level 1 with its attachment being ill thought through at its conception to me, or as other people are insinuating a money making exercise.
baguio
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It's not possible to do that though Jimmy. That's why they have moved the element to DSC2, where it should have been to start with.
jimmy milnes
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Exactly my point baguio, they should have known better than to have it on the back of a qualification that has no way of proving the candidate it worthy of it in the first place.
These people set the standards for amateur stalkers such as myself to abid by but have clearly been in adequate I thinking things through. Well to my reckoning anyway.
8x57
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My personal perception was that DSC2 was a national vocational qualification or at least was purporting to be. Reducing it to a single stalk looks to be devaluing it in my eyes. Is this being done simply to make it more attractive to those that have done DSC1 but aren't interested in going on to do DSC2?
Presumably simply one required stalk will mean the overall cost becoming more affordable and meaning that it will be easy to complete in a single day.
Presumably simply one required stalk will mean the overall cost becoming more affordable and meaning that it will be easy to complete in a single day.
Roestalker39
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Has done for years why stop now?
baguio
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Totally agree. However, better to admit that they got it wrong now than not admit it at all surely? At least every new trained hunter will have proved that they were capable of putting a carcass into the food chain to a set standard rather than having simply watched someone else do it on a video 'once'. Hands on is better than any theory and always will be IMO.
baguio
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Agreed. I think 2 stalks with 2 different witnesses would have given greater credibility?
Interesting, thanks for the article @White Hart.
It reads to me like they are trying to change the roles of the two qualifications. It looks like DSC1 will become a less 'valuable' qualification with the removal of meat hygiene but it will become easier to get DSC2.
I guess the sense of that depends on what DMQ are looking to achieve. Level 2 always struck me as a far more 'real' qualification than Level 1, which struck me as a good way to give those new to the sport a reasonable 'grounding' from which to build from but did not give anyone the right to say they actually could stalk deer. It would only be by completing Level 2 that you could have any claim to a qualification which proved you could do something.
On the other hand, I imagine the process of getting Level 2 would put a lot of people off.
Perhaps it does make sense to get more people to do Level 2 and so show some practical understanding, even if it means Level 2 is no longer as rigorous as it was previously.
Of course, that is before the cynic in me kicks in. There's no doubting that this will make Level 2 more 'essential' than it previously was. Might not be too long before forces start saying that Level 2 ought to be completed before an FAC can be granted...
It reads to me like they are trying to change the roles of the two qualifications. It looks like DSC1 will become a less 'valuable' qualification with the removal of meat hygiene but it will become easier to get DSC2.
I guess the sense of that depends on what DMQ are looking to achieve. Level 2 always struck me as a far more 'real' qualification than Level 1, which struck me as a good way to give those new to the sport a reasonable 'grounding' from which to build from but did not give anyone the right to say they actually could stalk deer. It would only be by completing Level 2 that you could have any claim to a qualification which proved you could do something.
On the other hand, I imagine the process of getting Level 2 would put a lot of people off.
Perhaps it does make sense to get more people to do Level 2 and so show some practical understanding, even if it means Level 2 is no longer as rigorous as it was previously.
Of course, that is before the cynic in me kicks in. There's no doubting that this will make Level 2 more 'essential' than it previously was. Might not be too long before forces start saying that Level 2 ought to be completed before an FAC can be granted...
The head, DMQ have decided that 'best practice' ought to be changed to allow for the lack of expansion of non-lead bullets...
*Disclaimer - this is trolling!
CarlW
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I'm more concerned by the changes to DSC2 than I am to the dropping of 'trained hunter' from DSC1.
L1 was always a box-ticker, but at least L2 encouraged people to actually get out and do some bloody stalking. The reduction to one stalk devalues L2 greatly. Just watch: L3 will be along soon.
L1 was always a box-ticker, but at least L2 encouraged people to actually get out and do some bloody stalking. The reduction to one stalk devalues L2 greatly. Just watch: L3 will be along soon.
Roestalker39
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Which cretins will welcome with open arms
jimmy milnes
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I've always said it Carl, look at the badge colours an just join the dots
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