DMQ Wild boar qualification

[User00047]

You say the same as all mammals get, well lets take rabbits, now at an official all time low, yet you still read of people shooting them with 22-250 and the like, just to watch them explode with no intention of picking them up, that's abhorrent.

To be honest, there’s no shortage of rabbits around here and I often shoot them from long range with a .243 for pest control and I don’t always pick them up because I can’t eat/process as many rabbits as I shoot.
They are killed quickly and humanely. What else can one do?

 

[VSS]

To be honest, there’s no shortage of rabbits around here and I often shoot them from long range with a .243 for pest control and I don’t always pick them up because I can’t eat/process as many rabbits as I shoot.

To me, that's just plain wrong. Rabbits deserve more respect than that. They're good meat. You should at least pick them up for dog food, even if you don't want to eat them yourself.

 

[Sharpie]

Boar are indeed a pest. See the damage that they do in woodland, rooting up everything, all the wild plants, and ground nesting birds' eggs. What do you think they live-off, fresh air or acorns ?

Very tasty though, if you get the chance of one. They are mostly crespucular.

At night, under a full moon, if you have baited them in previously, is good sport, so I'm told.

 

[User00047]

To me, that's just plain wrong. Rabbits deserve more respect than that. They're good meat. You should at least pick them up for dog food, even if you don't want to eat them yourself.

My terrier can’t eat that many rabbits and neither can I!
The farmers want them dead. They don’t give a sh*t what I do with them. I am providing a pest control service.
If you can think of any sensible, economical way of ethically disposing of up to 200 dead rabbits in one load, please do let me know.

 

[Sharpie]

My terrier can’t eat that many rabbits and neither can I!
The farmers want them dead. They don’t give a sh*t what I do with them. I am providing a pest control service.
If you can think of any sensible, economical way of ethically disposing of up to 200 dead rabbits in one load, please do let me know.

Find a dealer to take them, not blown to bits, just head-shot and paunched, and you might get £1 each. They used to say that 20 rabbits eat as much grass as one sheep.

Sniping them from afar with an expensive calibre sounds lazy to me, nevermind having enough to do 200 in one outing, given the current circumstances. My BS detector is off the scale here.

Shoot ethically, and aim to use the meat, they are not just furry targets to practice on.

 

[sauer]

My terrier can’t eat that many rabbits and neither can I!
The farmers want them dead. They don’t give a sh*t what I do with them. I am providing a pest control service.
If you can think of any sensible, economical way of ethically disposing of up to 200 dead rabbits in one load, please do let me know.

Eh?.....

Game dealer........

 

[User00047]

Find a dealer to take them, not blown to bits, just head-shot and paunched, and you might get £1 each. They used to say that 20 rabbits eat as much grass as one sheep.

It is a 90minute round trip to the game dealer and last time I asked he didn’t want them anyway.
Add up diesel costs and time spent paunching, cleaning, completing game meat hygiene certificates and filling in tax returns to pay tax on that £1 and guess what? It’s no longer economical.

 

[imnotrucknut]

I've shot rabbits for pest control at a university campus luckily they were processed for raptor food but I can fully understand pest control .I've left rabbits on the field then gone back a few days later to shoot the opportunist fox.
Gary

 

[imnotrucknut]

Vss
I agree with a lot of you're posts but I hate rats and rabbits are a pest that need controlling .you obviously haven't encountered the damage they cause to newly planted saplings plants etc
Gary

 

[User00047]

Find a dealer to take them, not blown to bits, just head-shot and paunched, and you might get £1 each. They used to say that 20 rabbits eat as much grass as one sheep.

Sniping them from afar with an expensive calibre sounds lazy to me, nevermind having enough to do 200 in one outing. My BS detector is off the scale here.

We’ve had nights where two of us in one vehicle have shot 200+ with .22lr and .17hmr
Most times I’m out for a couple of hours and shoot 5-40 depending on the time of year. Which makes it even less economical for deliveries to game dealers.
The .243 is mostly for the problem areas that are 100yds+ away and usually taken whilst foxes are also a possibility.
You can think what you like but if you knew me you would not call me lazy.
You should get your BS detector recalibrated.

 

[Sharpie]

It is a 90minute round trip to the game dealer and last time I asked he didn’t want them anyway.
Add up diesel costs and time spent paunching, cleaning, completing game meat hygiene certificates and filling in tax returns to pay tax on that £1 and guess what? It’s no longer economical.

So, you shoot 200 at a time, with a .243. Lets say £1 per bang. That's expensive. But are too lazy to pick them up and use them (rabbit stew is good food, not just for dogs). Ah well.

 

[User00047]

So, you shoot 200 at a time, with a .243. Lets say £1 per bang. That's expensive. But are too lazy to pick them up and use them (rabbit stew is good food, not just for dogs). Ah well.

No. Stop trying to twist my words around.
I sometimes shoot SOME rabbits with a .243 because it is sometimes a good way of killing them from distance. Also a good way to bait foxes into a specific area. As I said, it’s about pest control.
I realise that some areas of the U.K. now have low rabbit numbers at the moment but I can assure you that there is absolutely no shortage whatsoever here in Mid Cornwall.

 

[Sharpie]

I have not described them as feral pigs. That's not what they are. They're feral boar, ie, the species known as "wild boar", but descended from escaped domestic stock.

It's arguable as to where our wild boar came from. Certainly in Sussex and Kent their provenance is known, and they are the genuine article. Elsewhere possibly escaped livestock that has bred-back, it doesn't take many generations, and natural selection, to return to the original type.

More information about Wild Boar

Wild boar were once common in England, but were hunted to extinction at least 300-years ago. In recent years small populations of feral wild boar have become established again in the wild as a result of both accidental and deliberate releases from wild boar farms. The Forest of Dean boar...

www.forestryengland.uk

https://www.forestryengland.uk/sites/default/files/documents/Boar%20figures.docx

Wild Boar facts, distribution and abundance - Game and Wildlife Conservation Trust

Find out more about the wild boar, an omnivorous mainly nocturnal animal closely related to the domestic pig.

www.gwct.org.uk

Now a sad tale of "the Tamworth Two", who IMO should have been left to live a happy wild life and perhaps prospered, rather than become a visitor attraction:

The last of the 'Tamworth Two' pigs dies at age 14

The last of the Tamworth pigs that made international news after escaping from an abattoir dies at the age of 14.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sharpie]

PS: domestic pig > something looking a bit like a wild boar, after a few generations:

Do domesticated pigs revert into wild boars when they are released into the wild?

Answer (1 of 16): They don't technically “revert” back to boars . . . . . . which are the ancestors of domestic pigs, but they do “lose their domestication” and adapt to the wild VERY quickly (like 6 months quickly) and become “wild pigs” if released . . . We have some HUGE ones in this part of...

www.quora.com

AFAIK Natural England refer to them as feral pigs, because that's what they mostly are.

 

[levigsp]

I cannot understand why this is wrong? What have they done to deserve greater protection than a rat or stoat?
(Incidentally, I would never kill a stoat. I think they're fascinating animals, and I love to see them about).

I cannot understand why this is wrong? What have they done to deserve greater protection than a rat or stoat?
(Incidentally, I would never kill a stoat. I think they're fascinating animals, and I love to see them about).

You are not getting me, Im saying NO ONE should have the right to Kill boar anyway they wish at anytime they wish, which is what happens now, same with rats and stoats.

 

[levigsp]

To be honest, there’s no shortage of rabbits around here and I often shoot them from long range with a .243 for pest control and I don’t always pick them up because I can’t eat/process as many rabbits as I shoot.
They are killed quickly and humanely. What else can one do?

You are talking to someone who used to kill in the region of 1 tonne in weight of rabbits a week and everyone was picked up and used. There is no excuse at all to kill them and not give or sell them.

 

[levigsp]

My terrier can’t eat that many rabbits and neither can I!
The farmers want them dead. They don’t give a sh*t what I do with them. I am providing a pest control service.
If you can think of any sensible, economical way of ethically disposing of up to 200 dead rabbits in one load, please do let me know.

Contact any dog food maker or game dealer and they will take 200 at a time, as already stated I used to deal with a ton a week. Its laziness on your part, just not interested in picking them up, if it were up to me you would have your firearm tickets removed as no rational person would do that. In most of Europe you would be prosecuted for such actions.

 

[mereside]

I do agree with a few guys on here, it is long past due for proper legislation on wild boar, the amount of times i see pictures on facebook of large sows shot in milk is only doing more damage not managing boar, I use manage but really it's just shooting anything that walks to a feeder without understanding of what people are doing, it is high time for real legislation.

 

[Sharpie]

You are not getting me, Im saying NO ONE should have the right to Kill boar anyway they wish at anytime they wish, which is what happens now, same with rats and stoats.

The thing is, the current policy in the UK is that they want them all dead. Not managed for sport.

PS: I don't know of anyone who shoots weasels, which are delightful creatures, albeit somewhat destructive. Actually I'd like to see Pine Martens back. Rats, yes, horrible things with no redeeming qualities, they all should die.

As for boar, of whatever provenance, they are really a pest, hugely destructive, they don't get that big living off fresh air, as I said previously, and a genuine biosecurity hazard for our open-air pig farmers. Just as Muntjac are a pest, damaging to the woodland. However these things are also very tasty, and provide sporting opportunities, which I suspect is why they are turning up in all sorts of unlikely places, perhaps with some human intervention.

Purists may think that Roe and Red deer are the only things to take. Fallow being a recent froggy introduction post-1066, and Sika, Muntjac, Chinese water deer etc. thanks to the Duke of Bedford.

Some of the tastiest venison I've eaten was Pere David. Now that's a non-native species that I'd like to see in the wild. They are big beasts too.

 

[User00025]

FFS can’t they leave it alone? Oh, no wait a minute, forget about the need to keep the revenue streams flowing.

As others have said, it’ll be another means for the authorities to clobber us.

For interest, have a look at the faces past and present behind DMQ:

DMQ Directors

BASC “The Voice of Shooting”? Shouting all the way to the demise of shooting as we know it more likely.

That's more on the Board than The Ford Motor company (I think).
It's reminds me more of the "Board the Monkey F....d the cat on" than a Board of directors.