Do I need a 7x57?

[big ears]

You ain't going anywhere after I tell your wife how much the gun is you want to buy!
A Cornish pasty buy's by silence
Cheers
Richard

And I thought you were my friend!!
I’ll put the pastry on now! I have a nice bit of skirt in the fridge.

BE

 

[devon deer stalker]

And I thought you were my friend!!
I’ll put the pastry on now! I have a nice bit of skirt in the fridge.

BE

You should know by now BE, there are no friends on the SD
Cheers
Richard

 

[Lateral]

A Cornish pasty buy's by silence

CHEAP.................. not even a steak pie

 

[Lateral]

Thanks,
Not planning driven boar ever. I am where you were a few years ago!! The sod it moment is almost there! And like you the 7x57 is tempting.
Oh decisions decisions. What fun!!

In which case, a kiplauf / break-action will be great, but you need to remember, most are NOT ejector, so can be a little slow to reload. The traditional rimmed case may make it a little easier.

 

[big ears]

In which case, a kiplauf / break-action will be great, but you need to remember, most are NOT ejector, so can be a little slow to reload. The traditional rimmed case may make it a little easier.

Your not the first to say this so now looking at 7x57r Or maybe the 7x67r. Have shot one in 308 and the reload was easy but sedate.

 

[big ears]

CHEAP.................. not even a steak pie

That is sacrilege a pasty is in a different league to a steak pie

 

[deeangeo]

Your not the first to say this so now looking at 7x57r Or maybe the 7x67r. Have shot one in 308 and the reload was easy but sedate.

You have to develop your own smooth technique for speedy reload of a K95.
Of course it’s slower than a B/a action (not by much) but with replacement cartridge to hand, .. I have one held by the lips, it’s quick & easy enough to take a hind & calf in quick succession.

 

[big ears]

You have to develop your own smooth technique for speedy reload of a K95.
Of course it’s slower than a B/a action (not by much) but with replacement cartridge to hand, .. I have one held by the lips, it’s quick & easy enough to take a hind & calf in quick succession.

Good to know

 

[flipflop]

Have you thought about a 6.5x65R RWS? Fantastic round!

 

[deeangeo]

I think a rimmed cartridge is likely to extract easier as it’s a tapered case. Easier anyway than my 25-06.
I flick my fired case out with a fingernail. .. but it’s easy enough. I think the tapered case will just fall out.
As an aside, don’t Krieghoff make one with an auto extractor, like a shotgun. I have an idea they do, might only be the double rifle though.

 

[big ears]

Looked again at chambering option. In 7mm it’s either 7x57R or 7x65R. Ballisticslly I cannot see a difference between the 6.5x55 and the 7x57R so I seem to have gone full circle. The 7x65R does give an advantage but at a larger cost not only in running it but also recoil. The comment about fitting a kick stop kind of defeats the idea of a light weight stalking rifle (5.5lb) if you have to increase the weight to make it more pleasurable to shoot.
I have to say I’ve not had any issue with runners when shooting the 6.5x55 but do take the point that it is limited in bullet weights to below 160gr with 140gr about the best which could limit its uses.
I need to ask myself would I regret not getting a 7x57R. The problem is without shooting both the 6.5x55 and the 7x57R side by side it will be difficult to assess as pleasure has to be an important part of this.
Need to find a dealer with both and see if they will let me try them out.

 

[devon deer stalker]

I need to ask myself would I regret not getting a 7x57R. The problem is without shooting both the 6.5x55 and the 7x57R side by side it will be difficult to assess as pleasure has to be an important part of this.
Need to find a dealer with both and see if they will let me try them out.

Or a kind member on here with a 7x57R, if you do I would like to join you, and I will bring the pasties!
Cheers
Richard

 

[Steff]

If you are going down the route of a Kipplauf always choose a rimmed case. Even though non-rimmed will also work with a springloaded pin in the extractor which enters the extractor groove on the case. The K95 has this and it works. But it is just one more item that MIGHT fail. And it is so easily avoided by going rimmed.

I once owned a K95, but there was one issue I didn't like about it. This was the fact that the fore end is attached to the barrel, which made the rifle quite sensitive as to where you rest the fore end on shooting.
Since those days I am dreaming of a Hagn Falling Block as a single shot rifle ….

 

[Lateral]

Or a kind member on here with a 7x57R, if you do I would like to join you, and I will bring the pasties!
Cheers
Richard

It's a shame you guys are so far away, or maybe you're going to the DG practise day ? Or you could ask Bowji John if you could pop down to Bodmin Moor on Sunday 18th Aug', if he say's there will be time, to have a play with mine, and I'm pretty sure Orion would bring his Heym Kiplauf 7x57 non rimmed.

 

[Kalahari]

Ed of Edinburgh Rifles did have a Dumoulin in 7 x 57 on his site. Just what you need a real classic Mauser calibre in a classic '98 action. Walter Bell would definitely approve and everybody else (particularly PKL) would be green with envy.

David.

 

[Lateral]

If you are going down the route of a Kipplauf always choose a rimmed case. Even though non-rimmed will also work with a springloaded pin in the extractor which enters the extractor groove on the case. The K95 has this and it works. But it is just one more item that MIGHT fail. And it is so easily avoided by going rimmed.

I once owned a K95, but there was one issue I didn't like about it. This was the fact that the fore end is attached to the barrel, which made the rifle quite sensitive as to where you rest the fore end on shooting.
Since those days I am dreaming of a Hagn Falling Block as a single shot rifle ….

The K95, like all "break action" rifles, & shotguns, has a separate stock, and forend, and the barrel is the only place it can be attached to.

 

[Steff]

The K95, like all "break action" rifles, & shotguns, has a separate stock, and forend, and the barrel is the only place it can be attached to.

Fully aware of this. But that doesn't make it any better. Which is why I am more in favour of a falling block with the forend attached to the receiver.

 

[deeangeo]

If you are going down the route of a Kipplauf always choose a rimmed case. Even though non-rimmed will also work with a springloaded pin in the extractor which enters the extractor groove on the case. The K95 has this and it works. But it is just one more item that MIGHT fail. And it is so easily avoided by going rimmed.
Never ever had a failure of this nature since buying my K95 new in 2003. The only failure, if you can call it one, was the butt stock worked loose from the action. I bought the correct size/length hex key and the job was fixed in seconds. Also allows me to access 'the works' for maintenance/checking.

I once owned a K95, but there was one issue I didn't like about it. This was the fact that the fore end is attached to the barrel, which made the rifle quite sensitive as to where you rest the fore end on shooting.
Indeed, the barrel is attached to the fore-end stock, but I have never ever experienced any sensitivity or issue in resting the fore stock when zeroing. I'd never rest it on any hard surface zeroing or in the field, but always in my hand.
Since those days I am dreaming of a Hagn Falling Block as a single shot rifle ….

Rarely is there any comfortable shooting position available in the field when you'd like one, so you just have to make do and get on with it.
It's never been a real problem though and I've taken many, many reds using my K95
Cheers, d

 

[Dunwaters]

I have shot 6.5x55 and am very comfortable with it. It has done all I wanted and has given me a lovely red deer trophy which is on my wall.
Most of my stalking is roe with a few fallow and the odd red. I do not shoot boar but might someday and have been to Montana to hunt elk and might go back (if the wife allows)
I am seriously thinking of trading everything in and getting a single shot lightweight stalking rifle. The two calibres which are shortlisted are the 6.5x55 and the 7x57.
To move to the 7x57 I would have to change all my reloading kit and get new powders and bullets etc.
So my question is. How much will I gain by moving to 7x57 over the 6.5x55 which I already know well?

BE

If you reload and are going to a single shot why not look at 7x65R? You can easily load it down to 7x57 level for everyday use and bump it up to full throttle for the big stuff.
its a fairly common European cartridge too,

 

[devon deer stalker]

It's a shame you guys are so far away, or maybe you're going to the DG practise day ? Or you could ask Bowji John if you could pop down to Bodmin Moor on Sunday 18th Aug', if he say's there will be time, to have a play with mine, and I'm pretty sure Orion would bring his Heym Kiplauf 7x57 non rimmed.

OK, thanks that might work if @bowji john wouldn't mind us popping along, or @Orion might help us out at some stage?
Trouble is I often get a fly fishing booking on a weekend.
Cheers
Richard