Do you know what a 'half-shaft" is?

[Foxyboy43]

Spline & stress?

Sooo who was it said “a picture is worth a thousand words”? Little gems like “anti-icer slinger spout” - is it any wonder I still understand nothing on this thread.

 

[viking90]

If you look at the photo I posted where the hubs full of rusty metal shards (or glitter...Gary ) you'll see the splines in the drive flange. They're worn to sharp points which is bad. The splines should be rectangular. That's spline wear/fretting.

 

[User00035]

The best way to fix a Land Rover is to remove one of the headlight bulbs, take it into a Toyota dealer and say do you have a car that will fit this?

 

[Stalker62]

The best way to fix a Land Rover is to remove one of the headlight bulbs, take it into a Toyota dealer and say do you have a car that will fit this?

OK, now that's funny...

 

[landkeeper]

Just put new half shafts in ,I'd advise getting heavy duty drive members Bridport do them along with many other suppliers they are much better than lr ones the have an end cap made of metal that unscrew so you can pack with grease
Drive shafts on lr axles are sacrificial cheap as chips to replace and simple to do as are drive flanges
The other option are heavy duty shafts and flanges made by ashcroft engineering made from far harder stuff than lr chocolate

 

[Bowland blades]

I do.

Having only recently had my 110 returned from a major bit of TLC - which cost me an...

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I (naively) thought I would be 'good to go' for a wee while. Not so.

Couple of weeks ago, a major incident on the way to a shopping trip I did not want to go on - Mole Valley Farmers since you ask.

A loss of forward motion in the old truck, and we roll gently backwards into a grass verge. Lucky it was in the middle of nowhere and traffic was very light.

I cannot engage any gear, and shortly thereafter I cannot find my good humour which I seem to have temporarily mislaid.

For reasons I did not understand (at the time), I was, with diff-lock engaged, able to engage gears and obtain traction and then forward motion.

We limped home. Although the diff-lock was engaged, it did not drive as though it was - I didn't care, I just wanted to get the thing home.

The old girl made it home (who was it said that a Landrover is the only car that will still drive 'broken'?) and she was parked up on the driveway for a couple of weeks, whilst we waited for a slot with the 'man with a spanner'.

Monday sees me start the old girl up, and head off towards the garage. It is ten miles and somehow she makes it. Actually found myself encouraging her and tapping her (new) steering wheel in appreciation when she arrived successfully.

Later in the day I get the phone call. I was already teeing myself for a Diff-lock replacement and was wondering how we were going to fund that.

Turns out it is 'good news' (always relative). One of the rear half-shafts has stripped and the other is on its way. The truck is twenty years old and so this comes as no surprise to anyone other than myself. Whilst she is up on the ramp, I get them to check the front half-shafts and they are good.

Apparently it is the rear half-shafts that do most of the 'heavy lifting' in a 110. Who knew?

So there we have it. She is currently (metaphorically) 'up on bricks', whilst they await the arrival of two shiny new half-shafts...

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Considering how this could have gone, I will take this as a win.


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Due up in Scotland this June, and the thought of this having happened halfway up the M6 does not bear thinking about.



Landrovers.

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Just cannot be without mine.




Safe motoring everyone...

A big lump of EN19 steel and a fair bit of machining time , I would personally have chosen phoning round the breakers yards . Best bit of Land Rovers ( the proper ones, not the tarty status symbol ones ) is you can fix them without loads of special tools or being a fully skilled mechanic . Bad bits ? They get stolen a lot for these reasons !

 

[John Gryphon]

made from far harder stuff than lr chocolate

Def harder than the S1 and S11 axles that were made from reconstituted bananas. Oh yeah I broke my share of arse end axles.

 

[Utectok]

I feel your pain, but when you run a 20year old Defender you can expect things to go wrong on a regular basis and if you’re not handy with the spanner’s yourself, you’ll end up having to pay someone that is.
That model was notoriously idiosyncratic from the off, they’ve always needed a hobbyist owner.
You can also count on every single job taking two to three times longer than you thought because the bit you need to remove will be rust welded into position.
This costs a LOT of money when you pay someone else to do it.
Ask me how I know.
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Land Rover designers are also highly skilled at positioning bolt heads where you can touch them, but can neither see them or get a spanner in, or a socket on. This leads to high levels of frustration and Adrenalin production often expressed as bad, often very very bad, language and sometimes things that shouldn’t be get thrown.
It does nothing to restore your equanimity when you realise that the metal fastener you chewed up with a vice grips and threw into the hedge after a 40 minute struggle to remove it, is essential to putting the footing thing back together.
Either your Landy needs a new owner, you need to develop some mechanical skills or you need a a new income stream, a substantial one.
There is a bright light on the horizon, Defenders are highly sought after ( this leads me to believe that the population of closet masochists in the UK is actually far higher than the census would suggest ), so sell it and buy a Disco 4.
Leather seats, heaters that work, reliable, at least compared with what you‘ve got and eye-wateringly expensive to maintain, but no one expects you to do it yourself.
Or start frequenting the middle lanes in Aldi and Lidl, socket sets, welding masks, hammers, chisels, air compressors etc etc.
It takes about a year to collect them all.
Which gives you time to learn how to use them, basic skills, like righty tighty, lefty loosey, that kind of thing.
A decent socket drive often has some helpful arrows engraved to show which is which.

So I was once told landrovers were designed in the 1950s when “the man” of the house was expected to service and maintain vehicles and nowadays cars are not designed that way? Where as the landrovers more or less continued that design. Anyway it was a shock to me how much work goes into owning one as I didn’t really need another hobby. Flipside is parts are readily available and cheap and roughly half of the parts are not totally crap and need replaced again in a year… (three anti roll bar drop arm links in three years?!). I now try to buy the best parts I can but some of them are crap too… (three fuel lift pumps in 6months). If only there was a way of knowing which parts are solid and which garbage………

 

[bullet chucker]

Is it not, what you' feel after reading the monthly Draw' !

BC.

 

[gonzo]

I had a Range Rover classic (well, a few over the years). It had a limited slip diff on the transfer case. Those used to sieze up solid, leaving you in permenant diff lock.
Before I realised what the prob was, I had knackered the CV joints.
Si I bunged in another front axle, as I had one, and easier than doing the CV's. Rather than fix the diff lock, I just removed the rear half shafts and put big bungs in to stop the diff oil slopping out.
I just kept them in the boot wrapped in newspaper, in case I needed 4wd. (and put them in for MOT, to avoid questions.)
But driving a RR with front wheel drive only is.... Interesting. But I put up with it for about 5 years.
When I finally gave it to a friend for parts, he drove it across country to his place. He said it was the most frightening drive of his life. Andgiven some of the real junk he's driven over the years, that was high prais for it!

 

[sako85708]

Get a Series 1 Landrover fit it with a Rover V8 out of a old car, throw in the mix a lead footed 17yr old and within a few weeks you become a axle specialist. That's how my love hate relationship started with Landrovers !!

 

[urx]

The best way to fix a Land Rover is to remove one of the headlight bulbs, take it into a Toyota dealer and say do you have a car that will fit this?

Especially if its a snapped chassis navara or perhaps a rusty chassis toyota…..mmm perfect

 

[Dunwaters]

I had a Range Rover classic (well, a few over the years). It had a limited slip diff on the transfer case. Those used to sieze up solid, leaving you in permenant diff lock.
Before I realised what the prob was, I had knackered the CV joints.
Si I bunged in another front axle, as I had one, and easier than doing the CV's. Rather than fix the diff lock, I just removed the rear half shafts and put big bungs in to stop the diff oil slopping out.
I just kept them in the boot wrapped in newspaper, in case I needed 4wd. (and put them in for MOT, to avoid questions.)
But driving a RR with front wheel drive only is.... Interesting. But I put up with it for about 5 years.
When I finally gave it to a friend for parts, he drove it across country to his place. He said it was the most frightening drive of his life. Andgiven some of the real junk he's driven over the years, that was high prais for it!

I once managed to lose both front and rear drive shaft connections, I took the front one out for repair and then cleverly managed to strip the rear diff.
Things got really interesting fast, I was on a slope with no hand brake no Parking brake and no connection between the gearbox and the wheels.
I had to sit there with my foot on the brake pedal for quite some time. Eventually I rolled it into a hole and locked the steering wheel hard over, that gave me just enough time to roll a rock behind a wheel..

 

[ChrisWorley]

One of my workmates had half his foot missing ! . We used to call him Halfshaft .wouldn't be PC correct these days.

 

[Dunwaters]

One of my workmates had half his foot missing ! . We used to call him Halfshaft .wouldn't be PC correct these days.

An old colleague of mine lost 2 toes to gangrene under mysterious circumstances.
Since he originally hailed from the Kingdom of Kerry he promptly became known as “The Toes of Tralee”.

 

[Stalker62]

Just heard from the garage.

The 'old girl' is fixed (finally) and is ready for collection. Will pick her up tomorrow.

Already looking forward to the next breakdown adventure.

 

[Dunwaters]

How much was the damage?
I’m not looking for vicarious cheap thrills, I think I may have something similar brewing.
Incidentally, judging by the photos you posted during your previous travails, you probably have some corrosion issues.
The cost of bodywork repairs is truly eye watering and unlike similar procedures for yourself or the Mrs you can’t ship it out to Turkey or Thailand for a cheap offshore fix.

 

[Stalker62]

How much was the damage?

Forgive me if I do not go into £sd - but labour was 60% of the final bill - so if you are handy with a spanner...

 

[Dunwaters]

Thanks, discretion vs valour and all that.
Do you want to buy some spanner’s?
I swear upon the head of my brand new and only grandchild I’m only doing this one more job.
I can give the Land Rover addiction up anytime I want, I’ve done it loads of times.

Really, this time I will.Just not yet.

 

[wytonpjs]

Even on the old series landrovers these failed regularly. Beauty of the old Landrovers in Zambia was that by the early 1990’s there were plenty of old wrecks in villages and in the bush. If you broke down in the bush - and in those days roads were in many cases not much more than tracks, you could generally make a repair somehow. I once had to get out of the lower Zambezi with a tire stuffed full of dried grass after our final tube had got beyond repair. Another friend - now a PH - sprung a leak in the radiator of his landcruiser and lost all water. He did put a branch through it. A good 200 plus km from any form of support. Parked the landcruiser - one of the old 40 series - on an anthill. Took out the radiator. Tire leaver and a hot mopani log fire. And sacrificed the lead in the battery. He resoldered the radiator there and then using the leaver as a soldering iron. Put it all together. Bumped started it down the anthill and drove home with no battery or electrics - the old trucks didn’t really need electrics to run.

I suspect that truck still running 30 years later.

Yup - drove a MOD 110 back from Goose Green to Port Stanley in the early 80's with no alernator and F'all battery. Sadly, it was at night so navigating the flooded holes and ditches was not easy but it was possible. Nowadays, not even my quad will start and run without a battery let alone my 4x4. Supposedly, this is progress....................................