DSC1 Shooting Assessment

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Got my DSC1 coming up very shortly and was planning on taking my own rifle to complete the shooting assessment part.

My plan was to take advantage of the zeroing at 100m to ensure that rifle is ok, I will of course do this before hand but doesn't hurt to check again on the day. I know the grouping phase has now been removed.

The 2 shots @100m prone, I was planning to use my backpack with coat inside and perhaps my rolled up rifle slip as someone else mentioned on another thread to steady at the back. I don't have a bipod, but I do have some home made quad sticks for the 70m shots.

The 10m-20m headshot part - Is there anything I need to be aware of when shooting this close? I know if you shoot really close (less than this distance) the barrel is obviously lower than the scope reticle that you need to be aware of.

Possibly over-thinking it all, but I'm trying to be prepared :)
 
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Jimmers said:
Got my DSC1 coming up very shortly and was planning on taking my own rifle to complete the shooting assessment part.

My plan was to take advantage of the zeroing at 100m to ensure that rifle is ok, I will of course do this before hand but doesn't hurt to check again on the day. I know the grouping phase has now been removed.

The 2 shots @100m prone, I was planning to use my backpack with coat inside and perhaps my rolled up rifle slip as someone else mentioned on another thread to steady at the back. I don't have a bipod, but I do have some home made quad sticks for the 70m shots.

The 10m-20m headshot part - Is there anything I need to be aware of when shooting this close? I know if you shoot really close (less than this distance) the barrel is obviously lower than the sights that you need to be aware of.

Possibly over-thinking it all, but I'm trying to be prepared :)
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I passed a shooting test very recently. I practiced the test using the same ranges and the same rifle and the same positions as the actual test. I didn't have copies of the actual targets, so I improvised. I had never practiced a head shot before, so I aimed about 2 inches high. My recommendation is to practice and practice again. I did also purchase a couple of the latest roe deer inserts from the BDS shop.
www.bds.org.uk

Inserts for Roe Target A4 Head and Body DMQ approved -

Two inserts for Roe Target A4 Head and Body DMQ approved1 x Size A4 297 x 210mm replacement – BODY1 x Size A4 297 x 210mm replacement – HEAD
www.bds.org.uk www.bds.org.uk
Good luck.
JCS
 
jcampbellsmith said:
I did also purchase a couple of the latest roe deer inserts from the BDS shop.
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I did look at the deer target you can buy from there, but they wouldn't arrive in time before the course. I did however manage to scale up a deer image and print it on 15 pages to create a basic version of it. So at least I've got something more realistic to aim at than the targets I'd already downloaded from here. :)

T.eddie said:
wind your magnification right down as far as possible, if your base mag isnt drastically excessive then aim at the top of the skull right between the ears, where the black silhouette meets the white background, should put you near enough centre for the despatch shot
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Good to know thanks, I will practice this later. I'll measure out 15m from the target and shoot from this distance aiming just on the top of the head where it meets the white background. 👍
 
Jimmers said:
Got my DSC1 coming up very shortly and was planning on taking my own rifle to complete the shooting assessment part.

My plan was to take advantage of the zeroing at 100m to ensure that rifle is ok, I will of course do this before hand but doesn't hurt to check again on the day. I know the grouping phase has now been removed.

The 2 shots @100m prone, I was planning to use my backpack with coat inside and perhaps my rolled up rifle slip as someone else mentioned on another thread to steady at the back. I don't have a bipod, but I do have some home made quad sticks for the 70m shots.

The 10m-20m headshot part - Is there anything I need to be aware of when shooting this close? I know if you shoot really close (less than this distance) the barrel is obviously lower than the scope reticle that you need to be aware of.

Possibly over-thinking it all, but I'm trying to be prepared :)
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I shot the whole of my test off my sticks as there were people missing the 4" target @ 100 yds prone... :rofl:

My reasoning has a number of parts to it....one the round is on a down angle from the stick height to the target.
2 In tall cover you are like the pigmy tribe called wherethefcukarewe with a bag/slip/bi-pod laying down also the round is on a up angle to anything taller than a muntjac!!
3 You need to have eyes all around so lying down you see FA
4 We are known as up-right man for a reason that is why our eyes are set to look fwd...:popcorn:

Good luck with the test.
 
Tim.243 said:
I shot the whole of my test off my sticks as there were people missing the 4" target @ 100 yds prone... :rofl:
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Funny you mention that, last night I was reading up on the requirements and there's nothing stopping you from shooting off sticks. The thought did cross my mind...

For real life I'd never lie down in the woodland I have access to, as I wouldn't see anything anyway! Maybe prone in a wide open field/open countryside?

I may give it a try later at 100m and see how that works out 👍
 
I passed mine recently and they gave us plenty of time to see the target up close beforehand to see where the target circle is so I wouldn't worry too much about practicing on the same target. Dispatch shot they advised exactly as T.eddie says and you can shoot it off sticks at 20yds so really no way to miss. I wouldn't worry about it too much, they're trying to help you pass and its well within the ability of anyone who shoots regularly. We had a couple who had never touched a rifle before and they passed! Enjoy it, it's a good course.
 
Practiced tonight off sticks from what I measured to be 100m and managed to get a good group within the correct area with the 308. I may have to go with Tim.243's idea! :)

Headshot as T.eddie mentioned is perfect aiming on the white background/top of head border. Places shot near enough central to slightly higher than central in the correct zone.

Thanks everyone 👍 Off to learn some more deer questions now!
 
As has been said above, for the dispatch shot, aim smack bang between the ears and exactly on the top of the silhouettes head. I think glasses are mandatory for this one too. Good luck!
 
I’ve got mine at the end of this month. The book has been read a couple of times and I’ve signed up to the online bds knowledge test. Very worthwhile! need to practice the shooting test as I’ve got the proper target, just need a new scope for the 243!
 
Another tip for the humane dispatch, if you use a butler creek or similar scope caps, there should be two tabs on the objective cover that help ypu to lift it up.

When you have it popped up, it becomes an open sight for extreme close range. Useful when a scope is fixed power or has a high base magnification. Very fast too.

Apparently works very well on an M4 according to my American mate who showed it to me ;) 😅
 
Just checked the BDS site, and it does state: It will consist of two rounds at the chest of the deer target from 100m from the prone or simulated high seat position

I'm assuming that they wouldn't allow sticks in this instance, but I will of course ask the instructor to get their take on it!

Good luck as well Jimbob39! I've read the book a couple times too and signed up for the Ultimate Deer Data twice, since I was supposed to take this course over a year ago now!

Nice little tip there caberslash, unfortunately I don't have any covers on my scope currently...! :eek:
 
Jimmers said:
Just checked the BDS site, and it does state: It will consist of two rounds at the chest of the deer target from 100m from the prone or simulated high seat position

I'm assuming that they wouldn't allow sticks in this instance, but I will of course ask the instructor to get their take on it!

Good luck as well Jimbob39! I've read the book a couple times too and signed up for the Ultimate Deer Data twice, since I was supposed to take this course over a year ago now!

Nice little tip there caberslash, unfortunately I don't have any covers on my scope currently...! :eek:
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The test changed this year to the below.

Range.
100 m
70 m
10 - 20 m
2 shots at each, 100 and 70 chest shot can be taken how you wish.10-20 to head must be standing

• At 100 m – any position may be used
• At 70 m – either sitting, kneeling or standing position must be used
• At 10 - 20 m – standing position must be used
 
jcampbellsmith said:
Read right to the end of the Assessment information - DSC1 – Deer Management Qualification
Regards
JCS
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It might say max speed 70 but many drive a little bit faster...

I am sure a wheel bound shooter would not be asked to lay down with a bi-pod and take shots.

This is the problem with these types of set up....most can achieve it but it doesn't suit all, as the people who write these tests think it is what people should do (and by most part they are right)
How ever I hate laying down as I shoot a lot of foxes and the ground/cover conditions most times would not give me a chance to shoot off a bi-pod so if I can't get a shot off my sticks or the wrong way out of a high seat then I don't
So on the very very rare occasion I let it go...but with a fox I will go back and find a better position next time.

In one of the scuba diving tests it says remove and recover a regulator it doesn't say what side or if you are on one knee with your eyes shut just remove and recover the reg... so hitting a target at 100 70 or up close is the object just people tell you how you must do it....Rubbish.
 
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